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to think that people claiming that BNP voters aren't racists are being disingenuous?

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MrJustAbout · 23/10/2009 00:04

I don't get the argument "that these people aren't racist, but they vote just BNP".

For me, If you vote BNP, you are a racist. I know this is guilt by association but I think it's fair. What's more, making excuses for those who choose to support these hatemongers makes it more acceptable for them to do so.

I know I wouldn't vote for a party when I didn't know their policies and if I did, I'd feel pretty ashamed that I voted without bothering to find out. To be honest, anyone who votes for the BNP and claims that didn't realise they'd just cosied up to facists needs to give up voting for good.

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daftpunk · 24/10/2009 15:12

the BNP wouldn't allow that Morosky and you know it...

oh btw, hasn't a father just killed his 15 yr old daughter in some sort of "honour killing".....are honour killings allowed in this country...?

PeterAndresSkidmarks · 24/10/2009 15:15

FFS

vonnyh · 24/10/2009 15:15

I don't think any sort of killing is allowed in this country........

brightongirldownunder · 24/10/2009 15:16

Well a father purposefully dropped his 4 year old off a bridge over here in Oz not long ago - thats equally as horrific, DP....

SqueezyCheesyPumpkin · 24/10/2009 15:16

What has honour killing got to do with anything? Of course it is not allowed. Is anyone saying that is ok? I really don't think so.

brightongirldownunder · 24/10/2009 15:17

One honour killing does not make the country rife with them.

daftpunk · 24/10/2009 15:17

you see that honour killing brings me back to the point i made yesterday about people coming here and living by our laws....

Morosky · 24/10/2009 15:17

No daftpunk I don't know it at all, I have campaigned against the BNP in my previous town and they were violent, mysogynistic racist thugs one of whom said to me
"I hope a nigger rapes your daughter and then you will come crying to us" These are the people you are voting for.

According to the BNP, women enjoy sex and therefore we should enjoy rape, infact maybe we should be greatful for it.

Of course honor kilings are not allowed.

Georgimama · 24/10/2009 15:17

"hasn't a father just killed his 15 yr old daughter in some sort of "honour killing".....are honour killings allowed in this country...?"

No, murder isn't allowed in this country no matter who murders who. Does anyone really think that multi culturalism means we would legalise honour killings?

Honour killings are illegal in Pakistan, Afghanistan, all "hard line" Islamic countries. Yes, there are people there who wilfully misinterpret their religion's edicts for their own ends and to try to justify their evil actions - that's really not confined to Islam. What do you think of the Spanish Inquisition? Does that accurately reflect Jesus' teachings?

DP you can't really be this stupid.

brightongirldownunder · 24/10/2009 15:18

Mate, I give up!
I'm off to bed.

Morosky · 24/10/2009 15:19

So only immigrants break laws? I don't get your point.

VulpusinaWilfsuit · 24/10/2009 15:21

Fucking hell: you're of Irish stock, DP? And you really think it's sane to support the BNP?

You are so fucked up in the head. The only sensible analysis of what you think is that it is, in fact, about black and brown faces, but you're trying to cover it up in the same nonsense attempt at respectability as the rest of the BNP.

daftpunk · 24/10/2009 15:22

no...i'm not saying only immigrants break laws...what i am saying is if you come and live in this country you live our way...

honour killings are not a British thing are they..?

slimeoncrazydemon · 24/10/2009 15:23

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Georgimama · 24/10/2009 15:24

An honour killing is a murder. Murder is illegal and depressingly prosaic.

Can you really be unaware of the many hundreds of British (by your lovely BNP definition) men and women who have murdered their children and/or partners for reasons that could be interpreted as "honour" related - infidelity, bankruptcy, family breakdown?

Mamazonabroomstick · 24/10/2009 15:25

the largest number of immigrants to join our country in the .ast 5 years have been Polish and east European.

as far as i know honour killngs aren't normal there either.

PeterAndresSkidmarks · 24/10/2009 15:26

Exactly what point are you trying to make here daftpunk with your repeated reference to honour killings? Spit it out.

Morosky · 24/10/2009 15:26

Right now I get you dp, you can only break the law if you do it in a British way. OK. So murdering protitutes likes the Yorkshire ripper is fine, raping, torturing and killing young women like Fred West is OK. We will have those kind of people but mot people who commit foriegn crimes.

daftpunk · 24/10/2009 15:27

glad to hear it mamazon..

smallorange · 24/10/2009 15:28

Christ life is too short. You go and vote BNP daftpunk and hell mend you .

TheShriekingHarpy · 24/10/2009 15:29

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Mamazonabroomstick · 24/10/2009 15:30

so then what has your argument about honour killings got to do with increased migration to the UK?

as far as i am aware honour killings are frownded upon in all cultures but are more commonly associated in some asian cultures.

It is not Asian families we see trying to illegally gain access to the uk so i don't see anyway of linking your honour killings refferrence to any argument about immigration. legal or otherwise

nickynoonoo · 24/10/2009 15:31

Dont you think nick griffin has done all this in order to publicise his party. and thats what you lot are doing right now,by disscusing it!!!

VulpusinaWilfsuit · 24/10/2009 15:32

So how would it be for you if I was a different shade of bigot and said "Hey DP, I'm English, it's not your country, it's mine. Why don't you fuck off back where you and your parents came from. I don't want my kids losing out to thieving, overbreeding drains on the benefit system."

Because that's what lots of English people believe. Not me I might add (being of Irish descent, a fair way back, meself).

And what do you think about the treatment of the rural Irish poor by the English landlords in the 18th and 19th Century, that forced so many to migrate?

Or - perhaps - the BNP only accept the Celts as part of the acceptable story because they have white faces?

Huh?

Morosky · 24/10/2009 15:34

Of course labour party members, or any other party , are not perfect.

But having been active in politics for a long time I have only seen this behaviour from BNP activists.

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