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to think that maybe she went a little bit overboard?

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TotallyAndUtterlyPaninied · 04/10/2009 17:57

It was my birthday yesterday and DH was taking me away for the day and then we were going out for tea. Mum was going to mind DS.

She came round in the morning for a couple of minutes to pick up my DS and obviously to visit me on my birthday. Dad and DB came round at the same time, didn't really speak to me and didn't say happy birthday. I explained that it was really important that DS went to bed between 6-7pm as he usually goes about 6.15 and it is the one thing he is really picky about. He's 17 months and when he's ready for bed he gets his PJs, nappy and wipes, asks for a cup of 'milk' and says 'bobos' if he's left up any later he gets really unsettled and he will be up a good few times in the night crying. He likes to get up about 8am and if he has gone to bed at his bed time he sleeps through. He's a little poorly at the moment with a head cold and cough so it's even more important.

I said I wasn't fussed about anything else, when I send food she normally doesn't feed him it and gives him her own thing so I thought fair enough since she's having him overnight for us.

She ended up 'losing track of time' as she went to her sister's house who generally takes priority over anyone else. She rang me at 7.45 saying she'd just put him to bed and he was crying his eyes out and refusing his cup of milk. She wanted to know what to do. I was just getting ready to go to the meal and got a little flustered. I was ok on the phone but I txt afterwards and said 'I really appreciate you having him for us but when he stays at yours or [DH's mums's] it's really important you stick to our routine as it really works for him.' She gets very huffy and on her high horse if MIL ever does anything slightly wrong like feed him the 'wrong' thing or put him to bed later/fuss over him and play with him when he's in his cot.

She rang me and said 'what the hell is that supposed to mean?' I said 'nothing, I'm just saying he's very much in his bed routine and he'll keep you up all night now and he'll be bad for a couple of nights.' she was really angry and started shouting.

I said I really didn't want to row on my birthday and I was on my way out. She said 'fine, see you' and hung up.

I rang this morning and I was nice, didn't mention the night before, just asked when we should pick him up. She was off, but ok.

She wasn't in when we went to pick him up so I rang her a few times to find out where she was, she didn't answer her mobile. I then rang my dad who was really off with me, barely spoke, was grumpy and had a really nasty attitude. I finally got in touch with my mum and she had gone shopping so DH and I went to meet her to get DS. I asked her why my dad had been off and if it had been because of the night before. She said 'I don't know'. I said that I hadn't been horrible, I'd simply said that it is important that he goes to bed at his bed time as he gets unsettled otherwise. She started shouting in the shop. She said that DS had slept fine but he was tired out and slept 2 and a half hours when he got home. He doesn't normally sleep in the day anymore or if he does it's for 15-20 mins or so.

My sister came round today to bring me a card and I said 'I think mum's upset with me'. Mum had already told her what had happened but had been moaning about the fact she looks after DS 3 afternoons a week while I work, but at the moment she has to have him 4 as SIL has broken her leg and can't look after him. My sister was well and truly on mum's side. My mum has her twins 6 days a week all day. Sister said that I 'need mum too much' to 'act' like I have, and that if I'm going to have mum look after DS then I can't have anything done how I want it done, it needs to be how mum has it done and I can bite my tongue.

She was quite agressive about this.

Background is that they are a toxic family and I am very much the scapegoat in general anyway. But I was just trying to ask her to do what is best for DS. I was nice about it and really don't know why she has kicked off so much. Now mum isn't speaking to me at all and had to drop some birthday cards off for me so she walked past my front room window- I was sat in the chair next to the window, posted them through the door and marched off.

It just all seems silly. I have a teaching observation this week and my 20 week scan so I'm very worried and may be being irrational but I just cannot see why she's gone mad about it.

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bangandthedirtisgone · 04/10/2009 19:13

Why did you send it though? What did you think it was going to achieve?

risingstar · 04/10/2009 19:13

sounds like your mum is at the end of her rope-- seriously looking after your kids 4 days a week and your sisters twins 6 days a week.

i cant imagine why she flipped when you criticised her by text, in reality for visiting her own sister- when exactly does she fit her life in around all of this.

whether you think you are right or wrong you seriously need to humbly apologise and do it soon!

and i strongly suggest that if you are dependent on her to look after your kid so that you can work,you give the woman a break in the evening and hire a baby sitter for twenty quid.

JustAnotherManicMummy · 04/10/2009 19:14

OP, you know how prickly we all get when someone critises comments on our parenting..?

Well you made a comment to your mum about her parenting.

Therefore she is probably pissed off and feeling unappreciated.

I'd apologise and thank her for all her help.

skidoodle · 04/10/2009 19:16

There is no way a text like that, sent after a hurried conversation with someone in the middle of getting ready to go out, warranted a screaming match in public.

If this woman thinks going to visit her sister is more important than looking after her grandson properly then she shouldn't offer to look after him.

I don't have family nearby either and have only been able to leave DD with my parents overnight once in 18mos, but I don't see why that means other people should put up with abuse like this from parents that live near them.

This woman sounds unhinged.

Jamieandhismagictorch · 04/10/2009 19:18

what screaming match ??

SixtyFootDoll · 04/10/2009 19:18

Ithink yabu
It sounds like your Mum does a lot for you desoite her being 'toxic'
You should either appreciate it or go and get paid childcare
One late night - big deal

skinsl · 04/10/2009 19:20

Don't think you have done much wrong, your child, your rules, you know what's best and anyone, be it babysitter or grandma, should listen to what you ask. text messages are always a bit difficult, but she should understand where you are coming from. i would leave it until it all calms down then try having a really calm chat

FABIsInTraining · 04/10/2009 19:24

YANBU

If DS2 doesn't follow his day time nap routine he is up in the night without fail. It is the only thing I insist on.

Jamieandhismagictorch · 04/10/2009 19:28

OK, here's what I think is going on:

Totally's Point of View : feels like a scapegoat in the family, feels hard done by by parents, feels she doesn't come first. Wants mum to prove her care by looking after DS in exactly the way she wants it. ? Resentful of having to rely on family for childcare.

Mum's POV : Does a hell of a lot of childcare, possibly pissed off about this, feels foolish for cocking up bedtime/defensive - goes a bit overboard.

Totally Does this sound at all true ?

TotallyAndUtterlyPaninied · 04/10/2009 19:37

All true apart from the proving care thing- she openly says DS is her favourite grandchild and she wishes he lived with her, she loves him to bits and he reminds her of my brother when he was a baby. I am the typical 'middle child'- treated very differently from my siblings, not very liked etc. I am resentful that I have to rely on family for childcare as I wish I could afford to get proper childcare but I'm trying to claw my way out of debt.

Mum does do a lot of childcare- a lot more for my sister than me- usually has the twins 6-7 days a week which I think is an utter pisstake and sister should have thought about it before she had kids or should at least put them in childcare for a couple of days a week as she is loaded and can afford it. Mum possibly does feel foolish as she usually does everything right but clearly got it wrong this time.

But the issue is more that I think she's gone off the deep end over something small. I expected an 'oh I know, I got carried away chatting, I'll make sure he's in bed on time next time as I hate it when he's up crying' or something like that?

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FABIsInTraining · 04/10/2009 19:38

Maybe she just finds it hard to admit she has done it wrong when she is experienced with children?

bangandthedirtisgone · 04/10/2009 19:41

Just apologise for upsetting her and let it go? If you're fretting about it you obviously want to resolve it.

Jamieandhismagictorch · 04/10/2009 19:47

Totally

I meant proving she cares for you.

You sound pissed off that you've got her being angry with you, whilst it's your sister who is getting more help. This is doubly annoying as you already think she gets more than her fair share.

Do you find it annoying that she openly says DS is her favourite grandchild, or does it piss you off ?

Do you think you can talk to her about your relationship ?
People go off the deep end for all sorts of reasons. Maybe she's had a bad day.

TBH I feel for you, because it's upset YOU so much.

Very sorry if i am getting too analytical about this

hocuspontas · 04/10/2009 19:49

Can't comment on who's right or wrong but the bottom line is that you need her to look after your child while you work so she needs an apology anyway.

Ivykaty44 · 04/10/2009 19:50

Perhaps it seems like something small to you - but to your mum was the straw that broke the camels back.

Go say sorry and make up

As for your ds - let your mum and ds sought out their stuff and piss take or not leave them to it. You sort out your stuff with your mum - then sit down and try to work out what is best or both of you and then hopefully it will not happen again.

TheBolter · 04/10/2009 19:50

I think as in all AIBU discussions there is more going on in the background than meets the eye.

My thoughts were as I read this thread that your mother does a ridiculous amount of childcare for you and your dsis. I can't imagine how hard it must be to be of a grandmotherly age with three pre-schoolers under one roof. Blimey!

Admittedly, your mother could actually say no... but perhaps she feels in a position where she can't back track. I think this is a bit of a warning sign that she's bitten off far more than she can actually chew. People don't usually reacy in such over the top ways unless under very real pressure.

Personall, I think your dsis could do with climbing down from her rather sanctimonious high horse and give your mother's sanity and physical health a little bit of consideration.

Vinomum · 04/10/2009 19:51

OP, has your mum had your DS overnight before? Did she get him to bed on time then? I think if this was just a one-off incident, I'd be tempted to bite the bullet, say sorry for criticising her and let it go. It sounds like she helps you out a hell of a lot and it's not worth falling out with her over this one incident if the rest of the time you trust her to look after DS and he's happy with her.

I'm not sure about the idea of her saying that DS is her favourite grandchild - surely she should love her grandchildren all the same (and her children for that matter!)

bangandthedirtisgone · 04/10/2009 19:53

Do I vaguely remember a thread from you complaining that your mother was going to be looking after your sister's DCs and you were resentful about it?

morningpaper · 04/10/2009 19:54

For a 'toxic' mother, looking after three children for four days a week is rather impressive

You can't have it both ways - either find other children or accept that this woman is doing an ENORMOUS amount for you and your family and is not 'toxic' at all

morningpaper · 04/10/2009 19:55

find other childcare

Not find other children, that's illegal

Jamieandhismagictorch · 04/10/2009 19:55

Sorry, meant to say in my last post : Do you like that she says DS is her favourite, or does it piss you off ?

TheBolter · 04/10/2009 19:58

MP, her mother has her dsis's children 6-7 times a week! She also has Totally's for four.

Jamieandhismagictorch · 04/10/2009 19:58

I'd agree with morningpaper.

Ideally, you'd be able to talk to your mum and resolve some of these past issues, or get help to do this

Or get other childcare.

It's too complicated to have to feel grateful to someone you resent.

ChunkyMonkeysMum · 04/10/2009 20:03

Totally - Just seen your post about being the "typical" middle child.........I can soooooo relate to this as my DH is in the same boat, so can totally understand your resentment.

TotallyAndUtterlyPaninied · 04/10/2009 20:06

Jamie- I like it because DS is my life and I wouldn't want him to feel left out like I do. But I don't like it because it's openly saying there are favourites- which proves what I always thought. It also annoys me that she is moaning about having to have him the 4th afternoon (for 2.5-3 hours) a week while SIL's leg is broken, but she has the other kids 8am- 5.30pm every day. I do think she's feeling the pressure but I think that's a lot from having the other kids all the time, and also because Sister's husband is a sheer nightmare.

I love my mum to bits, I don't want her to be upset so I will say sorry.

Vinomum- She has had him overnight a couple of times before but she's always made sure he's stuck to his routine, although she usually adds in a bedtime bath where as I give him his bath in the morning, as she thinks babies should be bathed before bed. I don't mind that at all.

Whoever said it's cool that DS likes to get ready for bed and have his 'milk' is so right, we've been so lucky to get a little man who likes his sleep he even blows kisses as he goes upstairs!

I haven't written about this before as it's never really been a problem, I usually just try not to cause a fuss and get on with things, but I think maybe my hormones have gone a bit extreme lately and I've spoken out when I should have just left it.

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