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Another MIL story...

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AJ123 · 19/09/2009 10:04

I don't know what to do...I am at my wit's end!! My 1st child dd is not even 7 weeks old yet and I have spent most of her little life arguing with dh over in laws. I've tried as much as I can to ignore the situation, and of course I've enjoyed her but it's coming to a point where neither of us can stand it anymore!

I have never had a good relationship with MIL. Not from want of trying on my part, and tbh i think she took an instant dislike to me (she also continually mentioned his ex not very tactful!)- we're far too different people but grated along because we both loved her ds/my dh. Anyway, after a while this culminated in her being drunk in her local and shouting in a pub at my much younger brother how she was going to hit him because 'yuk' he was related to me, her ds could do so much better etc etc.

This caused huge ructions, but eventually, I accepted that I had to partly forgive her and try and get on with things. I was still not fully accepted and relations were strained but we muddled along.

6 months later, I found out I was pregnant. My DH was happy but immediately demanded that his mother would be allowed to see the baby as much as mine, divided child care etc etc. Funnily enough my MIL was not my first thought!

We told his mother sooner than I'd have liked (after I found out that one of his mother's friends had found out via my pharmacist(!!!!!) and had told her children (one of whom was dh's ex) and they were taking it upon themselves to announce it to people ). She was overexcited.

Apparently all she'd ever wanted to be was a grandma. She was in my face 'dn't cut me out, don't cut me out' gave me presents etc. It was so wrong. I could understand that she was happy, but to force a relationship with me only to get to her GC I feel was wrong. I would have respected her more if she stuck to her guns, I would never have stopped her seeing her GC. Anyway, the undercurrent of dislike was still there. I had previously suffered from bulimia, and at a family dinner to celebrate our news, she read out a text from a friend to everyone saying 'oh congrats on becoming a gran. At least she'll have a reason to be sick now'... I couldn't believe my ears!

My pregnancy continued. She continued to make it about herself. She wanted to put pics of my Scan on her facebook. She wanted to be in at the birth, (my FIL offered to film it!). She bought us a fetal heart monitor but insisted that she listen to the baby first (before even us!) so the gift was evidently for herself not us. She wanted to buy a baby box, which was sweet, and she asked me to choose. So I did. She bought a different one, that she liked! Her house was filled with her own pram, her own crib etc...

Fast forward to the wonderful day my DD was born. They came to hospital. My MIL just got my FIL to take pics of her posing with DD. None of DD with her DS, none of DD on her own, none of DD with FIL (believe me I was not in any state to want to be photographed anyway!!) She then announced the birth of my daughter on Facebook before we got to tell our friends, and put up all of her pics of herself with DD on the same site.

The photoshoots have continued everytime she sees her.ONly herself with DD and all get put on Facebook. Now call me old-fashioned but I thought Grandparent took photos and put them up in their house, not all over a social networking site where you don't really have control over who is looking at these pics...(she was asked by DH not to after even more pics were taken, but she ignored him)

She wouldn't come around at weekends, because she caravans every fri sat sun mon, so I was asked to endure afternoons with her on my own immediately after DD was born. It was torture. And it was just one battle after another...why wasn't she allowed to have her on her own, why couldn't she take DD out for a walk etc. She is just waiting to have me out of the way!

Finally, we took our DD over to my ILs, when she was 3 weeks old. It was just a quick drop in for cuddles then home to feed her. (not comfortable about BFing at ILs.) MIL asked if she could walk out with DD (not in pram but in her arms) and take her over to the other side of her village to 'show off' to her friends. I said I'd rather she didn't (maybe overprotective but that's my right surely). She sulked, she may as well have stamped her foot. Ten minutes later, my head was turned in conversation with BIL and she ran out of the house with DD anyway!! She hasn't been around since then to see her. I put my foot down and said it was weekends only, when my DH is home, and I don't feel so vulnerable. It has been her choice to sulk at this, and doesn't want to come around when I'm here. (In fact she text my DH and said she wasn't coming round ever again, she knows I don't like her, which to me is just a ruse to get my DH to ship my DD over to her without me - She's too little!!! But my DH agrees with his MIL that I should be out of the way so his Mother can see GD. Who else lets their LOs out of there site at this age? Am I wrong?)

I truly feel that my DD is a trophy to her. There is no kissing of baby or real genuine affection. And she isn't happy just holding her and interacting with her. It has to be about parading her.

It has got to the point where the thought of her holding DD makes me cringe. I truly don't think she's nice woman. She doesn't understand that she can't emulate my closeness with my mother just to have equal access to DD. It's just the way it is! (Before DD was born she said she didn't like girls, and anyway she just KNEW it was a boy and she has already mentioned since we had her that shes sure we'll have a boy...enjoy the GD you have!)

What do I do. This is tearing our relationship apart. On top of everything else I can't trust my DH to support me. I think her walking out of the house with my 3 week old daughter would be enough for anyone, despite everything else? At least it's going to take me a while to trust her with my baby, and I'm not sure that's surprising. My closeness to my mother isn't helping the situation as DH sees this and resents that his mother can't have the same. I wouldn't let someone I think is essentially nasty, manipulative etc etc have sole charge of the thing that is most precious to me in all the world....even if she is my MIL.

So....after this long post, am I being unreasonable?!

OP posts:
diddl · 16/10/2009 17:24

She has got serious issues.

What has your husband said?

If he cannot see the unreasonableness/patheticness/selfcentredness of her wanting to be called that, then I´m almost thinking he is a lost cause.

By god! he should be hiding in shame.

Did he not laugh when she said it-obviously thinking that she couldn´t possibly mean it and was saying it in jest?

Bucharest · 16/10/2009 17:28

I Am Going To Be Sick.

Just as soon as I've stopped laughing.

The woman is insane.

I would actually, in your shoes, call her that very name, very loudly, in public, always, while subtly humming the music to "they're coming to take you away, away, they're coming to take you away" you utter freakoid madwoman.

diddl · 16/10/2009 17:32

I thought my MIL had issues as when the children were younger she had her "special" gran wheedling voice that she would use to try to get them to do something "for gran".

freakname · 16/10/2009 17:33

But now you see why OP was freaking out with her walking out the house with baby. FREAK!

slushy06 · 16/10/2009 17:37

I would be calling her special nana looney toon wtf is wrong with this lady.

diddl · 16/10/2009 17:39

Oh dear, I´m laughing so much, all I can think of is thank god I did my post birth pelvic floor exercises.

It´s not just me who thinks that that just isn´t, well, for want of a better word, normal?

I now have such a picture in my head of when she walked off with baby.

freakname · 16/10/2009 17:44

diddl is the picture you're getting?

www.p2.com.br/ccbb/05cl.jpg

diddl · 16/10/2009 17:54

PMSL.

I think something along those lines-but scarier!

diddl · 16/10/2009 17:57

Well, don´t worry about tomorrow AJ

If it gets too much,just remeber, this woman wants to be called "special nana laineylou"

That´ll help you deal with her,if necessary.

Yea gods, how can this woman expect to be respected/taken seriously.

NanaNina · 16/10/2009 18:34

AJ - I don't think you should make your MILs feelings your top priority at all OR let her walk all over you, not at all. This woman is I think being highly manipulative and her behaviour thus far could just be the thin edge of the wedge. And of course you're not a bitch - you sound very sane and rational and taking a very measured approach to a very distressing situation. It's just that sometimes our motives aren't always played out at a conscious level and it can be helpful to take a closer look at our actions.

And Freakname (for those of you that don't know we clashed on another MIL thread) please allow others to form their own views on my posts, which they are more than capable of doing. Your telling AJ that she "does not need to defend herself against certain posts and to ignore future ones" is a example of this. I don't intend to engage with you again at all as bickering on threads is in my view unfair to the OP and annoys others.

AJ - hope all goes as well as is reasonably possible tomorrow.

diddl · 16/10/2009 18:44

I´m seriously wondering if MIL is ill,or do her husband and son "shield her from real life" somehow, so that she has absolutely no idea how ridiculous her behaviour and demands are.

PLease let us know what your husband thinks of her choice of name,AJ.

almondfinger · 16/10/2009 18:51

'Special' what a nutjob, serious self esteem issues if she actually needs to attach it to her moniker. I'd call her nana and let her call herself what she likes. Fruitloop.

PS Tomorrow, do not be drawn into any round table talks with the 3 of them. I would suggest DH putting dd to bed while you show the ILs out. That way the 3 of them will not be waiting at the bottom of the stairs with the shackles.

Also have a refrain along the lines of 'Let's all just enjoy a nice visit with dd today, shall we?' if anyone tries to start talks and repeat ad nauseum.

Once they have gone (I know you are not breastfeeding) pour a stiff vodka and down in one.

At least if you have a friend there you will have support if DH starts with the 'See, she is not that bad, you are just being unreasonable'.

I would actually come into the room a couple of times and coo at dd 'are you enjoying your time with nana' just to piss her off. Then say, can I get anyone another biscuit and glide back out of the room.

I thank my lucky stars that my ILs are across the water, they would never be as crazy as her but it keeps me sane

aokay · 16/10/2009 19:20

I'd try and get some counselling asap with DH as you really need him to see this is too much for anyone reasonable to put up with - you need help to draft boundaries and then present a united front to MIL. I would also seriusly consider moving house - sounds extreme but if she is close enough to keep bothering you it will be ongoing nightmare. I managed to hang onto my babies via the braestfeeding excuse - otherwise babies would have been shipped off for MIL to play with (without pain in the ass mom, ie me) but, as she could'nt breastfeed I held the trump card. - She made really weird remarks about having another baby herself and was extremely weird). We rub along now but she is a no go subject with DH - we just tend to be very busy and we don't live nearby!
Best of luck to you and congrats on DD, well done!

freakname · 16/10/2009 19:42

As you can see nutjob MILs really are out there. At least you know you are not alone. All you can do is ignore them and deny them the attention they crave.

[smug emoticon]

wolfear · 16/10/2009 19:56

My God! I've read snippets of this thread. I thought I had it bad with my MIL. This woman is a total freak. You're doing well to hold it together. I lost it at mine last Christmas when she tried to take my 18mo DS to a fox hunt on Booxing Day. She knows how DH and I absolutely detest it but was going to take him anyway "for the colour and pageantry"! WTF???!!!

It's all about control I think.

LittleWhiteWolf · 16/10/2009 20:54

Dude, I'm so gonna change my screen name to Special Nanna Lainey Loo for Hallowe'en--I need a good scary name!

Nanna Lainey Loo is fecking ridiculous. Just spent ages reminding myself of this thread. What one PP mentioned about her being narcissitic sounds quite accurate--this goes way beyond over-excited nana.

My MiL has been moaning to my SiL (who's lovely) that she's missing out on DDs life and never gets to see her. Yeah, well maybe thats because a) we have DD (14 weeks) into a nice routine which means weeknight visits are difficult b)her boyfriend is a dick and we refuse to be in the house with him (hes only there 3 nights a week) as we dont trust him c) we live in a rural location and she cant drive so its always down to us and d) I dont feel comfortable with her without DH even after 5 years. DH works such long hours that we think its more important that he sees DD during weeknights and gets time at the weekend when he's not working with her. We would make more of an effort if she was more accomodating and her home wasnt so stress-filled. Plus even if we made a huge effort to get over there as soon as the phone rings she disappears for hours to talk to her friends

But y'know, she sounds so pleasant compared to Nanna Noony Noo.

I will be thinking of you tomorrow. I would say that should things get out of hand you may find yourself wanting to get out until they're gone, which is a sad situation. Thats my only negative thought about them coming to yours, but I get why.

Good Luck AJ, you deserve so much more than this!

2rebecca · 16/10/2009 21:16

I think wanting to be called "special nanna laineyloo" is really shooting yourself in the foot. I'd be tempted to encourage it and put on a silly sarky voice when I say the name even if she's there to show her quite how stupid the name sounds. If you do the silly voice when she isn't there to the kids they'll soon pick it up as well. Even if you try to say it with a straight face by the time any grandkids start school they'll be cringing when they say it, especially if they have to say it in front of their friends. After all kids can be quite cruel and "special" to my kids equates to having special needs, and that's with having 1 kid who has special needs and refers to his card for exams (as do all the other kids)to give extra time as his "spesh" card.
Being special does not necessarily have positive connotations and being "special nanna" is maybe more appropriate than she realises!
Is this woman for real?

AJ123 · 16/10/2009 21:56

Hahaha! I can't get on here when DH around - over my shoulder - but he's safely on Playstation for now!

2rebecca - Special - ha! I like that interpretation!

DH doesn't like the name, but nor does he see my problem with it - he thinks that she should choose what she likes, again, just to keep the peace.

I'm sort of looking forward to tomorrow now I (or rather you guys) have got my plan sorted! Calm and polite is the way to go...

Special Nanna Lainey Loo here I come...I'll report tomorrow!

OP posts:
beaniesinthebucketagain · 16/10/2009 22:04

Ive read this thread in complete and for you and dd!

OF COURSE YANBU, she makes my mil seem like a teddy bear,

What happened Saturday, im on tenterhooks....

beaniesinthebucketagain · 16/10/2009 22:05

OMG, im sooo on the wrong day, why oh why am i convinced today is monday??? sorry ill be back when saturdays passed!

TheYearOfTheCat · 16/10/2009 22:40

Ok, I have only managed to read the first 40 posts or so . . .

You poor thing, what a nut job!

I know my thoughts may be a bit out of date, as there is a lot of thread still to read, but my first thoughts:

Whay are you arguing with your DH over this? You have made your thoughts and wishes clear. End of story. No more discussion is required (and certainly not rows). Don't get drawn into this - keep repeating, 'I have made my wishes clear, there is nothing further to discuss'.

I don't really know facebook, but is there a facility to complain to facebook that photos of a minor are being posted without parental consent and you would like them removed?

OK, off to read some more.

Hope you find some strength.

diddl · 17/10/2009 10:04

Good luck for today, AJ.

If it starts getting tense, just remember, this is the woman who wants to be known as "special nana lainey loo", and have a little giggle to yourself.

TBH I almost feel sorry for her that no one has had the guts to tell her no, that it makes her sound pathetic.

Ineedmorechocolatenow · 17/10/2009 11:27

Good luck today x

JammyOLantern · 17/10/2009 11:51

AJ - have been reading this thread yesterday and today. Not read every post but I do really feel for you. Hope things go well today.

If it makes you feel any better something good has come out of this - I feel a whole lot better about my MIL insisting on being called "Foozle" rather than gran/grandma/granny/nana/whatever! I still cringe inside though when I have to tell DD to "go take this to Foozle" (for example).

lucky1979 · 17/10/2009 11:56

Good luck today!
Imagine we're all pulling faces at Nanna Lainey Loon behind her back.