shy people get on my tits

[brimfull]

and I know I am being unreasonable

but I want to shout-' grow up and make a fucking effort!!'

and don't moan about your kids not having mates to play with when you never ask people back,never say hello in the street

thanks

needed to get that off my chest

SomeGuy - before I moved out of London I'd have said you were talking bollocks. But having lived elsewhere for a month now, I'd say you do have a point. I'm amazed at how much less uptight people are outside London - much more welcoming and open to chatting to strangers, swapping numbers upon first meeting (if you click, obviously!), introducing newcomers to their circle of friends. All of that does wonders for one's esteem and confidence and encourages one to talk to strangers more often.

I don't disagree someguy

the problem is, that after a week on holiday in Spain, you have to come home

so not really a sensible answer to the problems at hand

but, hey, thanks for trying

and sorry, I shouldn't have virtually told you to bugger off, wrong of me

see that ggirl, that is how you do an apology

watch and learn, eh ?

ggirl - yes, I understood that! My post meant - okay, not extreme, but still an extrovert. Hope that's clearer!

PMSL at Anyfucker - see what I mean? You're bloody brilliant.

typo earier, I meant "perceived as nosy" not "cosy".

Although I suppose people are cosy about nosiness. I remember some Thai woman deciding to rest her head against my shoulder when we were on a bus in Thailand. If that happened in the UK it would be an invasion of your 'personal space' and you'd say something, but I didn't, because I think it was fairly normal behaviour for Thailand.

Someguy:

(1) Are you sure the Thai woman was a woman?
(2) Are you sure it wasn't a local way of betrothing herself to a rich foreigner and now, by allowing her to lean on your shoulder you've inadvertently got married without realising it?

This has been fun. Night, y'all.

@ MrsMH

someguy, I think you are possibly confusing me with someone who did trade insults with ggirl

perhaps a little irony, a little sarcasm maybe, but nope, no insults

insult and apologise simultaneously..thats almost an art..lol

night MrsMH

MHM

it is true, the internet can make you the person you were meant to be

some wise person up-thread said that

if only quick wit were so easily translated to RL < sigh >

Yes London is terrible for friendliness. And the surrounding counties for that matter. I used to live oop north and people were more inclined to say 'hello' if you passed them while out walking. I think that never happens here.

I saw a shy woman in the wrong job today actually. She was handing out leaflets of some sort, but her body language was terrible, she was leaning back and looked almost frightened. I went past her and she saw me, but rather than step forward hand me one she sort of gulped and I instinctively moved a step in the other direction and that was it. I wonder if she knew that people could see how shy/bad at handing out leaflets she looked. I almost felt like going back and telling her that she was in the wrong job, but I don't go and speak to random strangers, that sort of behaviour is limited to Australians and New Zealanders and the like.

mcp, thanks for your support on this thread

Anyfucker, it is funny that the person with the brashest name on MN (you I mean!) should turn out to be a shy person in rl. Mumsnet is a gift, isn't it, for a shy person. A really lovely place where all of a sudden it becomes possible to talk properly.

anyfucker: I was referring to the insult trading that is a rather unproductive part of this thread, not to you specifically.

Also you don't have to come home from Spain/Thailand/wherever. There's free movement of people within the EU and, with a little will, beyond too.

MrsMerryHenry: yes it was a woman. Though the Thai ladyboys can be pretty scary. I got assailed by one walking through Mayfair with DW, s/he got very angry when I pointed out that I had a wife and wasn't interested in him/her.

I know tw2

Until someone finds a chink in your armour (like this thread)

np AF

someguy, you are delightfully random, I have noticed that about you before

I make no apologies for that

Very confident people are often insensitive and quite boring.

However the chronically timid really should get off their backsides and try a bit harder to be more outgoing. Pretending to be confident is sometimes helpful in becoming confident IYSWIM.

everyone has a chink..mine is cyber hugging and stealth flouncing

I know jemart

I have resolved to sort it, starting tomorrow

I am going to get off my backside and wipe out 44 years of negative reinforcement in one fell swoop !!

I think the randomness may be linked to the rather delicious beer I am drinking. It's an Achel Brune, 8% alcohol. Yummy. Shame we have to pay £2/bottle in this country while it's cheaper than water in Belgium.

Maybe I should move there.

besides my op which was not directed at a specific poster
I have not insulted anyone directly

mcp, you mean you hug and flounce ?

I have never flounced, no matter how tough the going

I may be shy, but I am one stubborn S-O-B

Have hugged on occasion, but not excessively and in context

I think the basis for the thread is pretty insulting to a lot of people TBH. I found it so, so couldn't be arsed to rebutt it (esp. as others have already done so).