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Really angry that the postman delivered a BNP election leaflet this morning

268 replies

MissM · 14/05/2009 19:06

He handed it to us with the rest of our post (included a parcel so he rang the bell). Why is this racist cr*p allowed to be delivered with the post? Obviousy they're too spineless to put their hatred through people's letterboxes themselves. Am thinking of complaining to the post office.

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mamas12 · 16/05/2009 00:18

Hello may I join in Because I have just received one of the offending ...I really don't know what to call it.
A piece of filth maybe

Anyway can anyone answer a question for me?
Do the post office still charge the recipients the price of delivering letters that don't have a stamp on them?
Because if they do,and we all put these things in an envelope and send them back to the address that's on it and NOT put a stamp on. Would that mean that the bnp would have to pay the postage?

I would love to start the campaign for reclaiming the phrase 'send them back' by sending these things back to their head office and making them pay for it. My Auntie always said if you want to hurt someone, hurt them in their pockets first!
Come on who's with me?

mamas12 · 16/05/2009 00:19

ps And I'm sure the posties wouldn't mind doing that!!

RaggedRobin · 16/05/2009 00:34

i posted this on another thread, but i thought some posters on here might be interested in the hope not hate campaign. they are leafletting areas where the bnp are expected to get a strong turnout to try to encourage other voters to get rid of the threat of fascism through the democratic process.

mamas12 · 16/05/2009 00:45

ragged I'm not being funny but I don't want to pay money out I want the bnp to lose out financially as well as at the ballot box.
Good luck with it though.

what about it everyone SEND THEM BACK!

bruces · 16/05/2009 00:46

I am a black woman and obviously don't agree with the BNP's politics but if we are to want to live in a society where the freedom of speech is the right for everyone then they have the right to have their leaflets delivered even if it is through the royal mail.

shockers · 16/05/2009 00:57

mamas12- that's inspired.... if it's going to cost them 30p ( or whatever postage is these days) per leaflet when they get them back, they may decide it doesn't make economic sense to send them out.I agree.... SEND THEM BACK! Not as an act of aggression or hatred but to illustrate that people do not have to accept this through their door.

mamas12 · 16/05/2009 01:50

Yey shockers, thanks for the vote of confidence and 'getting it' that makes two of us anyway.
ANYONE ELSE?
Shall we Send Them Back on a certain date or just get on with it and they get them back daily?

mamas12 · 16/05/2009 01:51

Anyone work for the Post Office and could tell us if this would work?

MrsMattie · 16/05/2009 10:46

You can't ban them. Free speech and all of that. But I do sympathise@OP. We got a BNP semi literate rant about the Poles leaflet through our letterbox last summer, and it did piss me off. I wish I had been at the door when they tried to deliver it and I would have given them an earful. Twunts.

HolyGuacamole · 16/05/2009 10:51

Letters sent without a stamp on them usually get charged the rate of postage, plus a fine of £1.01, well it used to be that anyway.

However, what used to happen is that you'd get a card thru the door telling you that an item had been sent with a deficit in postage, then you'd need to either attach the value of the fine to the card in stamps and post it to get your item delivered or take it into the PO/delivery office and pay it before you get the letter. So my thinking is that if everyone sent back the leaflets, the BNP would realise upon receiving loads of cards with fines and just not bother picking them up.

Dunno if that is still the case, that is what used to happen. A better thing to do would be to track down one of their freepost addresses, as they would be electronically charged to the BNPs Royal Mail postage account on every letter that goes thru the system?

mamadiva · 16/05/2009 10:56

From what I have heard so far in my community they will probably do well.

I have never voted before not sure I want to politics are full of lies anyway.

Around here though it is more of a case of a lot of the same nationality being tarred with the same brush, I admit I have had a racist rant about 1 person inparticular and with good bloody cause but would'nt dream of putting what he done to everyone else!

Not sure the leaflet thing would work as they would just bin the letters at the post office, a mate works there and says that a lot of the time junk mail or stuff without stamps just goes into the bin. Not sure this is standard procedure all over though.

StealthPolarBear · 16/05/2009 11:28

I suggested sending them back ripped up further down.
Think they only have to pay if they choose to accept them tho

FuriousGeorge · 16/05/2009 11:41

I don't agree with any of the tosh they spout,but banning them is undemocratic and will only make martyrs of them.

Saying that though,when we lived in a town,I found a BNP newsletter shoved through the door.I was pretty horrified and raced outside to see if I could catch up with whoever had delivered it to give them a piece of my mind,but they had vanished.

wb · 16/05/2009 12:00

I didn't like getting the leaflet either, however I would love a member of the BNP to come touting for votes in person as I've always wanted to ask them if I should be repatriated (as the child of immigrants) or if the fact that I'm quite white means I'm allowed to stay. Would also be interested to know if the kids can stay - their dad is English

I would also like to offer them the opportunity to repatriate us to Spain, Italy, Poland or Germany (I have mixed heritage) for a couple of weeks each summer.

Mostlythough, I think they are loathsome slugs

mrsrawlinson · 16/05/2009 12:27

I chased a couple of skinheads down our street when they had the temerity to pollute my doormat with their nasty propaganda. Tore of in half, handed it back to them and told them to keep their filth out of my letterbox in future. Most satisfying.

staylucky · 16/05/2009 14:17

The area I live in voted in the BNP I think he reason being that there's a fairly aged population here and the canvassers are pretty effective at targeting their patter to suit.

It makes me very sad and cross, I really really hope they don't suddenly jump up in the polls because of recent scandals.

Too much ignorance in the world, it just beggars belief that a party that openly discriminates is allowed to stand for elections at all.

staylucky · 16/05/2009 14:20

By the way.... I used to work for a mail order company and we sent out masses of junk mail to people including freepost envelopes.

People used to take revenge by sending back different items in the free envelopes, such as thawed out fish, dog poo, actual rubbish out the kitchen bin etc etc....

Just an idea......

surrofab · 16/05/2009 14:35

Lol to return fish in the post!Tehehe!

My area is like staylucky,the canvassers are very polite(not stereotypical skin heads) wonderful manners,educated and sell their parties to suit the climate.Which to me is exactly the same as every one of the other parties.
I do think they will get alot of votes this election as so far the BNP have not come of badly in this whole expenses scandal and the high unemployment rate versus the high immigration.
They do know how to sell themselves effectively.
x

RaggedRobin · 16/05/2009 14:45

it beggars belief that some people think that the bnp are some kind of moral crusaders following the expenses scandal. you only have to look at the proportion of thei members who have served actual prison sentences for crimes such as assualt and worse to realise that they are absolutely NOT "the same as every one of the other parties". see here

mamas12 · 16/05/2009 15:25

I agree totally ragged it is so insidious the way they are going about this and some people really are being taken in.
lol also about the smelly returning of leaflets, what can we rub them in before we return them?

Peachy · 17/05/2009 11:08

I've never seen a canvasser here; i think we're lucky that plaid picks off a lot of the dissatisfied voter contingent, leaving the BNP only for those who actually want to follow them. they appear on the form but that's about it.

dad says that at his workplace a few prats are insisting on telling their polish colleagues that they are voting BNP , surely that's intimidation? Pretty nasty at the very least.

Amanda1977 · 17/05/2009 15:16

Get hold of Nick Griffin's address and put poo through his letterboxsend the leaflets back to him!

OrmIrian · 18/05/2009 12:57

Our posties are refusing to deliver them apparently! Feel obscurely proud even if there reasons aren't directly political.

OrmIrian · 18/05/2009 12:58

their!

Nancy66 · 18/05/2009 13:04

I had a BNP canvasser knock on my door last Friday. I probably should just have slammed the door in his face but he looked, and sounded, spectacularly dim (yes, even by their standards) so i talked to him. It went something like this:

BNP: 'do you want to stop the muslims taking over?'

Me: 'how are they taking over?'

BNP: 'there's loads round here.'

Me: 'yes but how are they taking over?'

BNP: 'they just are?'

Me: 'how specifically? Name one way they're taking over.'

BNP: 'well, there's load of them'

and so it went on....