Should this really have been shown on the lunchtime news?

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I was totally shocked & unprepared to witness those scenes of Marnie Pearce saying goodbye to her children on the lunchtime news today.

I have not followed her case in any level of detail, but surely there are no circumstances that can excuse putting innoccent children through that?

There's a link to the footage here.

Just as a kind of warning, I found it particularly harrowing. Not sure it should really have been shown on the lunchtime news without some kind of a warning really.

I don't know any mother with a deadbeat ex who doesn't accept that most fathers aren't like that, actually.

Most of us know that our children had (and us) had bad luck but that our exes aren't representative. Any more than the legendary mothers who withold contact out of spite are representative of most single mothers.

Which is why I used the term some mums, I did not say all mums with deadbeat ex's. Just I said there are some mums who are shit.

The thing is Xenia has had a lot of stick on her for mentioning the fact that there are many caring dads who are destroyed when their no longer able to see theri own children, and there are some (again note the use of the word some, not all) mums out there who will do everything in their power to stop their exs from seeing their children. As I also said this was maybe not the right thread to post this on.

I have to say I have NEVER before agreed with anything Xenia has said before and have had many an arguement with her (under former names), but I do think she has a valid point and this is the first time I have see her views on this topic.

Of course I do not think the bastard in this particular case deserves any kind of sympathy and I don't think that Xenia said that (unless I completely missed something) and of course in the ideal world the children's parents would work together to enure that the children knew that although the prents no longer loved each other that they still loved the children - this is obviously not going to work in this case ( the father has seen to that) and this appears to be one were the father is using the children against the mother.

All I was trying to say is it's not black and whte. Not all mothers are saints, not all fathers are deadbeats.

Just because you don't know any spiteful mothers doesn't mean they don't exist. There are always 2 sides to a story.

I cannot see how it is racist to say you do not want your daughter to get involved with a man from a culture where women are treated as worthless. The fact that there are individuals that may not be misogynistic is irrelevant since statistically the majority are!

What is the -ist label for those of us who wouldn't want our daughters getting involved with families with a background of criminality say, or wife-beating etc? Isn't it bloody common sense!!

This Dubai man obviously wanted a divorce from his wife, he knew if she took the children to the UK he would not see them again..so he got in their first.

so a man is using the law in Dubai to have custody of his kids...while their adultery law are completely repulsive to us, there are plenty of laws here to be taken advantage of.

As Xenia and many others point out, this is really no diffrerent to what is happening in the UK right now...mums claiming their innocent parteners are wife-beaters...men claiming their wives have Munchausen by proxy.

Its foul but the more you think about this case, the more unreasonable it is to sign a petition to asking the uk governement to get involved here. PLenty of cases they could be looking at here!

What's all this talk about Marnie Pearce fleeing to the UK with her children and that he would never see them again?! She was living in a refuge after he beat her and was barely able to scrape two pennies together - facing the prospect of being DEPORTED (as well as a prison sentence) to the UK - WITHOUT her children! If you see a petition to the UK government, let me know and I'll sign it.

(Lil, the petition was to the Embassy of the United Arab Emirates by the way). Xenia, Marnie Pearce has an incredible fight on her hands in challenging the legal ruling which has awarded full custody to the father and to even have any contact with her children, which the father is clearly denying (despite his children's protestations). Everything is stacked against the mother in this case - and it is the father, who has the law, money, influence etc. on his side, who is determined to get 100% custody and to punish the mother, so to talk in terms of Marnie just getting a job and running her own house etc., which is all very lovely, as though this is a solution, is unrealistic in this case.