Should this really have been shown on the lunchtime news?

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I was totally shocked & unprepared to witness those scenes of Marnie Pearce saying goodbye to her children on the lunchtime news today.

I have not followed her case in any level of detail, but surely there are no circumstances that can excuse putting innoccent children through that?

There's a link to the footage here.

Just as a kind of warning, I found it particularly harrowing. Not sure it should really have been shown on the lunchtime news without some kind of a warning really.

God, I am pretty hard and most things on the news don't move me, but I had to force myself to watch that video all the way through - physically sit on my hands to stop myself switching it off. I feel I could murder that bastard for taking his children away from their mother like that. Poor poor woman.

I was shocked to see it, but that wasn't because it was on the news but because it is shocking.

I actually know very little about the case but that cry, the cry like a wounded animal, so gutteral and heartbreaking. I have only ever heard a cry like that once before and that was from a mum on the ward where DS2 was last year when her child died.

Real, real grief like that is unimaginable.

That is very much how I felt Dumbledoresgirl.

I too am usually quite hard-faced when it comes to things on the news.

I think I could watch someone having their fingers cut off more comfortably than I watched that.

The logic of so many supposedly intelligent people allowing that scene to take place is just bewildering, whatever culture they come from.

Of course it should have been shown.

And now more people will be aware of the sort of things which go on in the world; how could that possibly be bad? Yes, it's very upsetting. I hope everyone complaining about it does something about it, signs the petition, gives a donation, whatever.

Think about the world around you; think about the different cultures, beliefs, social mores. That way, we are all more likely to be able to compromise. (Utopia, anyone? )

god. that video is just heart wrenching...it is really harrowing, but imo, it just makes me even more grateful to have my kids here, with me, and appreciate that just a little bit more.

I couldn't watch it all. How could their father do such a thing? If it was ME, I would be using every last ounce of energy/money I could manage to kill the bastard/alternatively kidnap the kids and run.

But I am not the most reasoned person in the world.

it's truely awful. whilst it's terrible to watch hopefully it will go aomeway to helping the poor woman and her and and i'm sure the many other mothers and children who don't make the news in countries where women are second class citizens and can be treated as possessions.

I had hope when I saw the older boy arguing with his father. He is old enough to remember his mother and remember the grief his father put him through. Hopefully he will make his father's life miserable until he can get back with his mother again.

I thought they did put out a warning first - I wasn't watching / listening closely just before the video, but I'm sure I heard them say something about "harrowing scenes"

As someone said above you run this risk if you marry a foreigner whether you are male or female except in 9 cases out of 10 it's wicked women doing this kind of stuff to men who don't deserve it. I hope all single mother mumsnetters who deny or make harder contact between their chlidren and the children's father appreciate that men as much as women suffer these agonies and I hope they resolve today to facilitate a lot more contact between children and father.

Like Firstontheway said, I too have no interest in debating whether it should have been shown but OMG, that was the most heartbreaking, terrifying, awful footage of anything I've seen for a long time.

Proof if any was needed that women are seen as sub-human and a waste of time in many countries even now.

Easter of course it should be shown, how else can people be educated as to what is going on in the world?Are you happier in your ignorant bubble?

It should make all of us women on here very grateful we have been born at this TIME in this COUNTRY.

I am guessing that she had children with a man of different nationality than her, has been talking to another man and has now lost custody of her children?

Xenia raises a fair point I think. In the UK the courts are heavily in favour of mothers in custody disputes. There are good fathers who this happens to HERE.

Men cry every night because they have not seen their children for ages. I met one man who because he'd had a bath with his children his wife said he was an abuser. He'd not seen them for 12 months. He may never see them agin even though he isn't. I am constantly amazed by how women seem not to regard men as having any feeling and that after divorce they seem so happy to deny men contact. Heart breaking. Or they offer 1 day a fortnight and can't seem to put themselves into the shos of the man and imagine what it would be like to reverse the roles. If this woman took her children to the UK I bet the father would never get to see them which is just as wrong and sad.

Not so sure about your last sentence Xenia, THIS man looks like a complete piece of shit of a human being.

Much as I agree that fathers are all-too-often sidelined in custody issues, I can't help wondering whether Xenia's revolutionary zeal on behalf of suffering fathers might be partly down to the fact that it dove-tails nicely with her own approach to infant care - ie going back to work full-time when one's baby is two weeks old

! personal attachks greeny, now you're just trolling.

What an utterly moronic comment Greensneeze, do you want people to think you are a bit daft and not able to keep up?

greensneeze that's not really on. off the point totally and uncalled for

Xenia - well said! I'm constantly amazed at how often women seem to think they have the right to deny fathers access to their children. Our neighbour has two sons he's fighting tooth and nail to get the right to see. He's a lovely man, and while I obviously don't know all the details, I can't imagine what he could have done that's so awful that he's never allowed to see his own children again.

Greensneeze - um, I think you'll find that irrelevant personal attacks like that are not actually allowed on MN. If you disagree with something someone has said on another thread, take it up with them there.

Jesus. That is the most distressing thing I've seen in a long time. I really hope she gets custody of her children - imagine how messed up they're going to be (especially the older one) after that ordeal

Hear Hear Xenia

I too know too many men - good, kind men - who are denied fair access to their children on the whim of a female.

I also feel terribly for this woman in the news.

It's awful to whichever parent IMHO.

Greensleeves - bore off. Jesus if people were still quoting my 2 year old comments/behaviour to me, I'd have no bloody mates. Oh..hang on... I don't

There is nothing moronic about Greensneeze´s last comment Morloth. You seem to be over reacting for some reason..?

The reality is that fathers do not make any sacrifice whatsoever for their children or actually spend much time with them. Let´s face it, with the odd exception, the Xenias of the world, and house husbands, Mothers look after children, give up life as they knew it, for their children. Mothers take care of children and are normally responsible for every aspect of their life

eg personal care
buying clothes and dressing
making sure they have healthy diet
reading and homework
school run
play dates

Even if both parents work full time, it is not the Father who is responsible for children, but the MOther who does the lions share of hte work. Even in terms of child care expenses, some women think it is normal to shoulder the expense themselves, and don´t even consider the Father partly responsible.

Mothers are RESPONSIBLE for making sure everything that has to be done re kids is done, a good father will "help out" but it is "helping" not taking the initiative re child care.

So in custody cases is it surprising that Mothers are normally left holding the baby? How many FATHERS do you know who have little or no access with their childern? I know PLENTY. Anyone know any Mothers who have chosen not to be with their children? Not so many, are there..

I´m referring to Fathers who CHOOSE not to see their childern btw..