to be bl**dy furious that my DD has measles because other parents won't vaccinate?

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poor DD is only 11 mo and has horrid measles all over her, full of cold, streaming eyes, diarrhea, very unhappy and sleepy and limp. I am so so for her, but more I am absolutely bloody with idiot parents who won't have the MMR!

The doctor actually told me this morning that the reason it is so prevalent in our area is because of stupid people refusing to vaccinate their children and compromising the immunity of the whole group. So now my LO, who is only 2 months off having the vaccination herself, is really really sick because of other people's stupidity. It's making my blood boil! Do people not realise how dangerous it can be in little babies? And does anyone still seriously believe the so called "research" which claimed a link between MMR and autism? It has been so completely discredited in recent years you would think people would have got over it by now and started vaccinating again

Arrgh!!

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that is surely reassuring to the OP.

DD2 just had her booster last week.

Glad to see a booster is now given to teens.

Leonie, one of possible side effects of getting measles is death. It is much more likely statistically than the likelihood of side effects from the vaccine. Not sure you have really done your homework.

And please remember that your decision also affects other people's dcs - as OP has shown.

It is what it is, MmeLindt.

Im sorry that your DD isnt well. I used to be really worried that my DDs might get measles before they could have the MMR. Luckily they are all done now. I hope that your DD feels better soon.

novice - I hope you have plenty of time on your hands with that comment...........as iirc from previous threads on the same subject there is research out there (and I'm not just talking about the original one) that show that for some children MMR is really not a good idea.

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I did not know that. What age are they when they get a booster then? Is it part of the routine vaccination schedule?

The point you are all missing is that most parents who do not agree to the MMR have single vaccinations and thus their children are vaccinated. As FAQ says, these appear to be unvaccinated children in the statistics but they are not.

I thought single vaccines hadn't been studied well.

Why should the government pay for them?

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FWIW my brother had a severe reaction to the MMR which resulted in him not eating for over 2 years.

I still got my children vaccinated, but like i said i researched it alot before doing so.

I've met lots of people who've not had the MMR for their children - but none that haven't vaccinated at all.

It's part of the schedule now up here, MmeL, thankfully. A booster at age 12.

Glad to see it as whilst I was working in a university we saw many young adults coming down with mumps as they'd not had a booster past pre-school age.

yanbu I hope she feels better soon

Single vaccines were routinely used before the MMR.

Ah, I see, Soupy. I had MMR in the US back in 1972, again in 1976 and a booster in 1989.

I'd not heard of single vaccines till I moved here, but then, as I didn't have kids, I didn't really pay much attention to the debate.

YANBU.

I blame the evil DM journalists for influencing sheep-like people into thinking MMR vaccine is dangerous.

I had a booster after i had my DD, i no longer had antibodies for the measles or mumps.

OP - I have to admit I felt a level of fury as well, when my 10mo got it last eyar. BUT - and this is a BIG but - i don't blame the parents. No way. I blame the government and NHS who REFUSE to license the single vaccs (or offer them, or something - nobody will give me a straight answer because they're not allowed to even DISCUSS it with parents)
and most people who WOULD accept the single vaccs are not able to because of financial constraints and ready availability.

It's rubbish, and I'm sorry you are going through what I went through last year - but please don't blame other parents. They are only trying to protect their kids.

I'd bet you 99% of people refusing the MMR would be happy to have single vaccs. but can't get hold of them.

Btw - watch out for prolonged crying and inability to be comforted - mine was like that for a night, and he had an accompanying ear infection which luckily he was given antibiotics for in time - although I hesitate saying that as I believe his hearing may have been affected - nobody knows yet, his speaking is very slow.

I know a four year old who had the MMR and got German measles.

There are many good reason not to vaccinate for a small number of children.

'The point you are all missing is that most parents who do not agree to the MMR have single vaccinations and thus their children are vaccinated'

Unfortunately that is not the case at all.

'as iirc from previous threads on the same subject there is research out there (and I'm not just talking about the original one) that show that for some children MMR is really not a good idea.'

There is research 'out there' that suggest for some children school / food / insert anything is not a good idea.

Well, it depends where you get your information from. The quacks are out in force on this one. Immunisation is safe. A lot safer than actually getting the disease. Particularly German Measles which is a huge threat to unborn babies. The doses are minute and rarely show any side affects. My DD got mumps only months after her 4 in one booster and we are having to roll out an immunisation programme in our secondary schools because mumps have returned. Polio too was almost irradicated until someone spread the rumour that the vaccine would make the children sterile.......... Spare us.........

Especially if she starts hitting her head with her hand. That's what he was doing.