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...to think you shouldn't walk round starkers in front of your son's ten-year old friend?

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fossa · 09/04/2009 20:49

No problem with nudity in front of your own family, in your own home, I know everyone has their own comfort zone.

But DS was on a sleepover where the mum walked into the bedroom in the morning with nothing on... that's odd, right? She said she forgot he was there... Just not something I would have done.

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Shambolic · 10/04/2009 10:54

We've had a couple of conversations about this and there are some threads on here as well.

We're not naturists by any means - there's no political/social point to our nudity, we just like sleeping naked.

I imagine we will both start covering up (or DH at least) when DD reaches an as yet undecided age...

At the moment I can easily imagine wandering in by accident. Half asleep and doing your usual thing, if you haven't got up and covered up at home for 20 years (like me) then it would be incredibly easy to forget.

Wouldn't do it on purpose though, no.

Out of interest what would people do if they had a DC with a friend who came from a naturist family? If warned by the family/child of the family in advance, and your DC had no problem with it, would you let them go to their house? (Assuming that your DC and their friend would keep their kit on, just the parents were naked?)

Mumcentreplus · 10/04/2009 11:08

hahaha..this reminds me of when I was about 11 or 12 I used to stay at my best friends house all the time...one night we went down stairs and decided to have a midnight feast..(at about 2am in the morning)...her dad came down starkers and said 'Oh it's you two,get to bed!'..I just remember watching his penis bouncing from one thigh to the other in the semi darkness...when I got home I told my mum and she stayed at ours from then on......her parents were quite bohemian but lovely people ..her dad had built most of the interior of the house and they used an oldstyle wood burning stove in the kitchen...my mum had had experiences in life that made her very protective of us ..but I really don't think what he did was intentional and I don't think she did either because I was still allowed to visit and stay as I got older and it never happened again

my mum is very no holds barred if she thought for a second I was any danger it would have been a different story...

Mumcentreplus · 10/04/2009 11:11

I'm always naked in my house..(glad i've got DDs)

Fizzylemonade · 10/04/2009 11:59

I always love the statement that no-one can see you when you open your curtains...

reminds me of the time our neighbours in the semi attached to ours had sex with her leaning on the window sill, him at it from behind and her saying "don't worry, no-one can see us"

Yes true we looked on open fields but when you have windows that open sideways they reflect everything in the room, so as my opposite window was open I got an eye full of him lifting his t-shirt up with one hand and holding her hips with his other as he deep thrusted her

Re the OP - once is a mistake but if it were to happen again with another child sleeping over I would be concerned.

If it ever happened to me I would also be telling people rather than keeping it to myself as then it seems as there is something to hide.

redsock · 10/04/2009 12:46

"flapping his willy about"

Sorry but LOL

FelineFine · 10/04/2009 12:50

Wow I would be shocked.

I remember staying at a friends when I was erm.. [thinks] at primary school anyway and her parents were at the pub.

They came back and were arguing (I was sleeping) I woke up heard them arguing and ran to the bedroom door and they were naked, both of them. Chasing each other naked. I was terrified.

Not the same as OP but I thought I would share that with you.

I also seen another friends parents naked, but it was in pictures and they were doing sensitive/adult things. That's a whole other thread though. I still blush when I see them though.

HerBeatitudeLittleBella · 10/04/2009 13:11

"But that doesn't mean it's our right to parade naked in front of visitors to our home"

But I don't think the woman in the OP did "parade" as such. She was obviously on auto-pilot just having woken up and was going through the every day motions.

I think the word parade in that context is quite extreme and conjures up exhibitionism, inflicting nakedness on unwilling viewers, etc. And I think that's what's partly wrong with our view of nakedness, as soon as we hear about it instead of shrugging and accepting it, we define it as "parading" and exhibitionism. You can't just be naked, you have to be flaunting it.

Blondeshavemorefun · 10/04/2009 13:30

it prob was a one off (and she did truly forget) and sure the mum will now sleep with full body armour and chasity belt when having her ds friends to stay!!

but as miranda and i said at the beginning - sure you would all in in our crys of rage and anger if it was a dad and your daughter

i have nothing against nudity and often sleep in nothing but when we have friends to stay both dh and i will wear pj's/boxers

but it is very different from you doing it in your own home, and knowing that your children may walk in during a showera walk about naked etc and going to a friends house and seeing their mum/relative naked

i am still stunned that she forgot the child was there

doesnt sound a responsible mum to me

HerBeatitudeLittleBella · 10/04/2009 13:32

Oh god so we're now going to define being forgetful as being irresponsible parenting.

If it were a man who were equally forgetful and it was fleeting like this, I wouldn't have a problem with it. As someone else said, if they hang around for half an hour for a chat or it happens a second time, then I might look at him askance.

I bet she won't do it again though, having done it once.

FelineFine · 10/04/2009 13:37

I wonder if anyone really cares anymore tbh...........

FelineFine · 10/04/2009 13:37

sorry PMT

Shambolic · 10/04/2009 13:50

Irresponsible?

So all naturists are irresponsible?

I can see that they might be if they don't put an apron on while BBQing a la the cliched hilarious joke, but other than that I don't think you can label an entire perfectly valid and legal lifestyle "irresponsible".

It's only people with their clothes off FGS, get a grip. It's not like they were re-enacting scenes from debbie does dallas on a stage in front of an audience of 6 year olds.

Alibabaandthe40bunnies · 10/04/2009 13:53

I can't see an issue. My parents used to wander around naked/in underwear at home all the time and so we all grew up quite relaxed about it.

Once my Mum's DB and his DW were staying - the DB decided to go downstairs in the morning to make tea. And forgot about the burglar alarm.
Cue my Dad coming charging down the stairs to try and turn it off before the outside sirens started going at 7am on a Sunday - he was starkers. My uncle was and said 'but what if xxxxx (his DW) had seen you?'.
My Dad was , 'so what - she's seen a naked man before'. Hilarious.

I can see how you would forget. Some of our friends used to be round all the time and were just like extra members of the family rather than guests, in fact I'm amazed that none of my friends ever saw my parents starkers.

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PinkTulips · 10/04/2009 14:17

of those of you whose houses are warm enough to sleep nekkid at this time of year..... i'd die of hypothermia in this igloo house!

she sounds a bit ditzy but nothing worse than that.... and i told everyone at the playschool about the time i was sunbathing in my bra safe in the knowledge that the houses to either side were unoccupied.... only to have the owner of one turn up and wander into his back garden and stand talking on his phone about 10 feet away from me.... with no dividing fence i told them because i thought it was funny! (well afterwards i did... at the time i damn near broke my neck diving in the door of the house to find my top

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Cazzaben · 10/04/2009 14:20

I'm reading it through and think willy flapping around is HILARIOUS!!!!

Sorry I know it's supposed to be a serious thread...

But how can anyone not laugh... I can just see it now... bouncing from one leg to the other... !!!!!!

Cazzaben · 10/04/2009 14:22

Oh Felinefine... I'm dying of laughter at you being terrified of 2 grown adults running around nekkid having a row... God im pissing myself as i write... !!!

Blondeshavemorefun · 10/04/2009 14:24

glad my flapping willy comment has amused

captainpeacock · 10/04/2009 19:33

It was me who made the comment about my saggy overweight body earlier, it was part in jest, but I must point out I am nearer to 50 than 40 and would have thought that this fact alone would put any young lad off his tea.

solidgoldshaggingbunnies · 10/04/2009 19:37

I agree with whoever said that if the naked person hangs around chatting to the startled visitor, or does it repeatedly, then it's less good as, at very least, the naked one is trying to prove a point of some sort (even if the point is that nudity is normal and natural, it's a bit off to keep doing it when it's obvious that a visitor is not entirely comfortable.)
But just being naked briefly in front of people is really no big deal. FWIW I have been in some swimming bath changing rooms where people happily strip right off to shower.

minxofmancunia · 10/04/2009 19:55

Hmm if you've got guests in the house or are staying at other peoples houses either wear nightwear or be vigilant about covering up as soon as you get out of bed IMO.

I want dd to be relaxed about her body but I think sometimes all this wandering around naked is a bit , it can really freak kids out and make them feel v uncomfortable.

My parents did it and I hated it from a v young age, used to make me cry almost. They just poo pooed at my discomfort. I also remember wanting a proper swimming costume to cover my chest from quite a young age and my Mum telling me not to be stupid just little bottoms were fine and just feeling sick with embarrassment the whole time.

The whole open nudity thing can go both ways. Bodies are private and special and not to be paraded about IMO, and I HATE women who do this at the gym PUT IT AWAY!!!

But maybe I'm just a repressed uptight old crone

minxofmancunia · 10/04/2009 19:59

And i hate it when certain friends of ours stay the night, in uor bed as we decamp to the spare room so they can put a travel cot for their ds in our room with them and they sleep naked in our bed!

When you go in in the morning they frantically grab the covers over themselves, just for one night can't they wear pjs, just out of respect?

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