to think that day care centres or 'nurseries' should be banned?

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Having spent some time working (doing supply) in several different nurseries I have been appalled by the treatment of the babies and and young children.

The babies spend most of the day crying, desperately wanting to be held or have some kind of one to one attention.

They are all forced to 'nap' at the same time whether they are tired or not.

They are put in highchairs and fed one by one with the poor children at the end of the row crying until it is their turn to be fed.

The worst part is when the parent arrives to collect their child and asks how they have been they are told 'He/She has been fine, had a lovely time' even if the child has been crying all day!

Why oh why would anyone out there child in such a place?
If you have to work get a childminder!

gets popcorn...

What a helpful post! I'm sure you've made lots of people feel great about taking their child to nursery tomorrow

what a laugh!

This is going to make the working mums with 6 month old babies feel SO much better-why would you want to post this?!

YABU

My nursery is owned by a woman who has two of her own children there

she took it over when the previous owner got ill as she was soooooo upset that her boys would lose their lovely nursery

why would a childminder be any better?

I think you had better don your tin hat as your statement is so profoundly sterotypical and generalized that you are bound to get a well-deserved flaming.

Is this for real?

so do i.
then fucktatrds like you would have no job and the state would have to pay for you.

that would be so much better wouldn't it.

well for the reasons you highlight generaly for babies and young toddlers I always preferred the environment of childminder.

I was so sure this was going to be your first ever post. But, rather surprisingly, it isn't.

Not all nurseries are like the ones you've been working in. Tbh they sound as if they need reporting to ofsted.

DD1 was at nursery from 6 months and loved it. The girls were fabulous and I had no concerns about her care.

Agree with Ali, not a helpful post given that most mums work because they have no other option and some already feel about it.

I hope you reported the nurseries you saw this type of thing in to Ofsted. My DS' nursery is lovely, all the children are treated with great affection by the staff and appear very happy there.

your not even a troll your serious arent you!ha ha!

yep yabu-its none of your buisness what other parents do with their children.if you dont like it dont do it!

YABU and could be insulting many really good childcare specialists who work at good nurseries who frequent this site.

I cannot imagine how my child hates her nursery, after all, she runs in to the room in the morning, checks out the fish, hugs her key carer, comes home with paintings and photos of her having fun, has nice pink cheeks from running in the garden. When I pick her up she is very pleased to see me and show me all the cool things in her room and meet her friends. She is not yet 2 and has a top time.

I think most people could see from their child's eyes if they had been crying all day. I am guessing you had a bad experience.

fucktards such a great word

I wonder if the OP did anything to try and makes things better for those babies or change the way things were done.

Have you reported all f these nurseries for their poor care and treatment of babies and children in their care?

This is not my experiece of nurseries where my daughter went too. And because of my hours at the time I would turn upf or drop off and collection at different times of the day, without forward or advance warning to nursery - so they could not alter things in prep IYSWIM.

My daughter was very verbal very early. From a year old she could tell me about parts of her day. By 3 and 4 she certainly could hold fullc onversations. If she had been upset she would have let me know in no uncertain terms. Also because of the chatterbox she is, and the way her nursery was organised, she would tell me about what happened with babies, etc. too - if she thought something wasn't fair, I'd know!

Our nursery did not answer "how has she been?" with fine if she had not been. We were told about her day in full including any ipsets that may have occured.

Nursery didn't force DD to nap at all, and def not at the same time as others. DD droppped her nap before turning 2y and although other children in her room napped, she didn't. The girls in her room would either play with her or she would go downstairs to the older room and play there (still within ratios) which she loved.

I often saw babies and children being held, played with, talked too, interated with, cuddled, sat on knees - being cared for.

I wanted a nursery as I didn't want to put all my trust in just one person. I didn't have a personal recommendation therefore I did not chose to go down the childminder option.

Not ALL or even MOST nurseries are like the OP describes.

Some are better than others. We chose ours based on recommendation of others and I saw meal times and all sorts of other times and it was great every time.

OP - Firstly, there is no way on this earth I would entrust my toddler to a childminder. No Way.

I have used two small nurseries, both of which have been absolutely excellent. The evidence is in my DS asking when he can next go to nursery, see his key worker and play with his friends. If nurseries were to be "banned" I, and thousands of other parents, would be up shit creek without a paddle. Plus thousands of children would miss out on valuable social interaction with a wide range of adults and children, plus all the opportunities for learning and development that brings.

Are you a CM trying to drum up business by the way?

Sorry, I didn't mean my OP to sound as melodramatic as it does.

I genuinely don't want to make parents feel guilty, I just really think that these nurseries are not a good idea for babies.

I think babies need to be looked after by someone who loves them, or at least can care for them individually.

There are other options available apart from nurseries.

that is your opinion.