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to dread my son getting married going on some of the attitudes to MIL on MN?

151 replies

Fairynufff · 23/02/2009 19:09

I hope if my son ever does get married his wife will be more forgiving of me than some of the mumsnetters posting on here.

If I say absolutely anything to a prospective daughter in law I can expect it to be interpreted as possessive, arsy, interfering, not generous enough, too generous, the wrong kind of generous, want the grandchildren for themselves, want the grandchildren only at appointed times, favouring some grandchildren over others, not pc enough, not making enough effort, making too much effort, making the wrong kind of effort, not understanding, old fashioned, loony, mad, spiteful etc etc.

I appreciate some PEOPLE (not just MIL) will be any of the above but why do some women seem to really hate their MIL for trumped up reasons?

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FairLadyRantALot · 23/02/2009 21:50

YANBU...

I think I want my sons all to be gay....would that be easier, I wonder...

I hope that I will be able to have a positive relationship with any of my future dil's...
maybe it will be easier, because unlike some very jealous mothers that hate any woman taking her son, I will be the one that says "take him, please, just take him"

PeasForTeaAgain · 23/02/2009 21:58

Fairynuff - there is a funny and very entertaining read in Red magazine this month. Very funny and true. A MIL can be a woman's best ally, so don't despair!

fluffles · 23/02/2009 21:59

I think it's hard - although i've been with my DP four years, my potential future mother in law is still a virtual stranger to me, DP loves her and she seems really really nice but i am a very private person and AM worried about 'opening up' to having her around a lot when i feel vulnerable and hormonal.

All that stuff about - well if you'd let your mum look at your fanjo during birth you should let your MIL cause she's the GP too is just nonsense if you ask me. I mean yes, MIL is GP to the kids and should be as close to them as my mum but she is never going to be as close to ME as my mum and some things (mainly fanjo and breast related) are just a bit personal. I would expect DP to show my mum his willy!!!

PeasForTeaAgain · 23/02/2009 21:59

March issue actually.

PeasForTeaAgain · 23/02/2009 22:00

they do change after you get married. chill out a bit and seem to respect you a bit more. Either that or you get more confident and then answer back?!!

fluffles · 23/02/2009 22:03

eek! i mean i WOULDN'T expect DP to show my mum his willy - obviously

ginnny · 23/02/2009 22:04

pmsl at Fluffles expecting her dh to show her mum his willy!!!

Qally · 23/02/2009 22:09

It's interesting, because my husband and my Mum adore each other, but my husband avoids his mother at all costs. Basically Mum has a life, and the energy and love she gives us is time taken out of that life. MIL wants DH to vindicate her existence. I'm really pissed off at the moment, because when DS was born, and DH rang her, all excited and buoyed up, she said, "I hope he'll be a good son. I hope he won't just abandon you when you're old and need him, and never bother with you and leave you lonely, after all you've done."

I offer for her to see my baby son once a month, but she refuses as DH won't be there in the week, and he isn't willing to have her take up a quarter of his weekends. I offer for her to come at Xmas, but she insists all of us should go to her - including her ex and his new partner, who understandably would rather boil her own head, and my own mother. She tried to insist we spemt our summer holidays with her, in Doncaster, as foreign travel is wasteful and pointless and we could have a lovely fortnight with her.

I know she is lonely, I know she has no friends, no partner, her siblings avoid her, and she thought having a son would ensure she had company for life. But frankly most of the contact I have with her is because I'm sorry for her - it's grossly unrewarding. She lies about times she has been excluded - there are photos of her to our right when the wedding cake was cut but she insists she wasn't there and nobody bothered to fetch her. And she constantly tries to compete with me, which is bloody ridiculous because she drives DH a lot madder than she ever could me. Example: her b'day is on Valentine's day. One year, he completely forgot. I was cross with him and spent hours online and then on the phone, trying to persuade a local florist to deliver (at late notice, same day... on Valentine's Day.) Eventually, a woman very kindly was moved to sympathy with this poor forgotten Mum, and agreed to take the order. For a year after that, she would say every time she saw me, "X sends me the most wonderful flowers! When did he last send YOU flowers, Qally?" Which hardly inspired me with the determination to do it again. She flips out when he hugs me ("I don't want to see that!"), and she spent the first year we were together warning him I'd get pregnant on purpose to trap him (I was in my final year of a law degree at an academically tough uni. Funnily enough, I had other things on my mind at the time) because that was what she'd done herself. And she is VILE to her ex, who is a darling and always speaks glowingly of her, while she will sit there talking about how she'll spend his money when he dies. They've been apart for 14 years, and she left him for another man. She has no boundaries. She just seems so bitterly jealous, and as my own Mum is thrilled that we are so happy and so well suited, and dotes on my DH (takes his side in disputes, 9 times in 10) I find it all completely batshit insane, tbh.

The really miserable thing is that DH hates any contact with her, because her desperation and bitterness make it a nightmare. I tried at one point getting him to call her every week before she called him in case it made her less clingy, but all that happened was she started calling daily instead. For hours at a time. I know she is lonely, I know it's really sad, but the essential problem, as DH pointed out, is that she doesn't want to think her only son can't stand to be around her much, so she blames me. And nobody can sustain warmth and sympathy from someone who acts more like an embittered ex-wife than a mother-in-law. She's actually said that he left her for me, and that our wedding day was the saddest day of her life because she knew she'd never come first with him again. That is not normal, surely? Her own sister says she needs to get a life! It's awfully hard to build bridges in that setting, because he isn't about to move back in with her and hermetically seal himself off from anyone else, and she insists on trying to compete with me when it shouldn't be a contest, we each have our own role. I am at such a loss on what to do at this point. She essentially is bitter that her son is grown up and independent, and she prefers to think that's down to me. There's nothing I can do to change that preference.

God, this is long. I'm sorry. But honestly, it's so frustrating when you try and try and a problem is insoluble. This and breast-feeding have been the two most impossible challenges of my life - and at least my struggles with bf will stop bothering me, once DS is weaned! My main anxiety is that I want her to have a warm relationship with DS, because grandparents are important - but she's such a self-absorbed child, and I am worried she will guilt trip and manipulate him. Gah.

DontlookatmeImshy · 23/02/2009 22:14

I have ds's and sometimes dread being "the MIL" when/if they get married etc.

My MIL is another lovely one, but now and then she says things that really are quite innocuous but I know that other DIL would have taken offence.

I was thinking about this earlier and think one of the things in her favour is that she has let her ds go iykwim. Unlike my mum and my db who is 33 and will still be living at home when he's 40+.

I hope i can be like my MIL and lets ds's go while still being there for them when/if they need me.

TheSmallClanger · 23/02/2009 22:17

I like my MIL. I can see bits of her in DH, as well, which is comforting. It doesn't stop her being annoying on occasion, but it's the same with anyone you spend time with regularly.

hotpotmama · 23/02/2009 22:24

This is what scares me the most about having only boys. Its stupid worrying about something that may not even happen and is about 20 years in the future, but it does worry me.

Shoshe · 23/02/2009 22:25

I am a MIL,and adore my DDIL, not having a daughter, she has so filled that space, finally i have someone to go shopping with

We spend quite a bit of time together without DS, I Think it helps that we have similar outlooks on life, and very similar tastes (she is the only other woman i would buy clothes for)

Some of the closeness may be that DDIL is South African, and h own Mom is thousands of miles away, although she does skype hr daily.

Some of the closeness in my DS's eyes is because he swears he has married his mother we are so alike

I guess some of it is, the day that DDIL and DS married I handed him over to her safe keeping, a job she is doing brilliantly.

DH reckons that is not a bad thing

dancingqueeen · 23/02/2009 22:26

I am lucky, I really like my MIL, she has genuinely been kind and welcoming since the very first time I visited. It may help that she has 4 sons so she's probably glad when they get taken off her hands , but I think its basically just that its not in her nature to be competitive.

On the other hand, my mother is hard work even for me and not an easy MIL for dh at all. That said, I think it never gets too bad for two reasons: I really make an effort to look after him/ keep my mum happy so she doesn't have one of her 'days' when we're there; and dh really makes an effort to 'put up with' her behaviour and not aggravate it. So what I'm trying to say is that the MIL may be part of the problem but people should look at themselves too. Yes it can be hard work to bite our tongue, but I think its worth it overall (she does have good days!)
(that said, I can see from some of the examples that in some cases there is some pretty terrible MIL behaviour)

Qally · 23/02/2009 22:28

Shoshe, can I adopt you please?

piscesmoon · 23/02/2009 22:29

I think it is the one disadvantage with boys hotpotmama and it worries me. The DIL holds the power and she can relegate you to second class grandparent.I like to think that what goes around comes around, I have always treated the grandmothers equally and so I hope that I will be a friend to a future DIL (if I get one).

Deemented · 23/02/2009 22:30

I have to say i totally love my MIL.

She's been dead 30 years.

Pristina · 23/02/2009 22:34

I agree with Pruners. Nice to see someone who has a nice MIL able to sympathise with those of us who don't.

Pristina · 23/02/2009 22:37

picesmoon, I think I'm beginning to recognise some of your themes on here from old!

DILs certainly don't hold all the power. The other way round in many cases, and as the older woman they are supposed to have the benefit of age and wisdom to be the "better woman"...

edam · 23/02/2009 22:39

The anti-MIL brigade do worry me. I hope to hell ds doesn't make the mistake of marrying someone who looks for any opportunity to take offence.

My MIL's lovely. I used to moan a bit about her needing lots of attention but had to remind myself that the poor woman had been left alone very suddenly (FIL and an aunt who lived with them died within a fortnight of each other). Then I had ds and started to feel MUCH more appreciative of her - can see the world a little more from her point of view now.

She's lovely, never interferes or criticises, adores ds, didn't do too bad a job with dh. OK, we don't share all the same interests or approach to life, but hey, that's a minor detail compared to having someone who thinks ds is the most gorgeous little boy in the world (her other grandkids are older).

hotpotmama · 23/02/2009 22:41

Pisces, yes I don't worry about other things but it is the one thing that gets to me.

What can you do tho other than befriend them and hope for the best? still makes me to think about it.

piscesmoon · 23/02/2009 22:43

I think that when someone has all boys they begin to hear the alarm bells ring-all it takes is a DIL who doesn't want you to be a part of the family and relationships are strained. It is very easy not to invite someone or to turn down invitations, not to leave DCs with you, not to talk to you on the phone etc.
My DSs have only just got to the point of having girlfriends and so far I have got on well with them (they are a breath of fresh air after an all male household)-if it wasn't for people on here saying things like they get on well with their MIL because they have been dead for 30 yrs, I wouldn't worry!!

katiestar · 23/02/2009 22:45

I don't know anyone IRL who hates their MIL

piscesmoon · 23/02/2009 22:47

I don't either-perhaps it is just the ones with problems who let off steam on here and it gives a false picture.

Peachy · 23/02/2009 22:49

Have ahd 2 mil's (well the first was almost but we were engaged and together aaaages so close nough)

After initial my-son hostilities we got on OK, met for lunch etc- I missed her more than him in the end tbh

MILnow though is a grade A cow and indeed it is Dh that refuses togo near her now, not me.

have 4 sons and have told DH he is to watch how I am with DIL's like a hawk (or indeed SIL's)as dread being horrid MIL but know I can be competitive. Will work so hard at getting on though and keep frustrations to DH and myself!.

ladylush · 23/02/2009 22:53

So sad about your dd CWWM And at your mil

I count myself lucky to have a lovely mil. I'm not mega close to her but have enormous respect for her and feel very fortunate that dh has such a lovely mum and ds such a great granny