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To not care that a sex offender got stabbed to death up the road from me.

198 replies

PingpingsatonSantasface · 12/12/2008 15:50

Last night a 52 year old sex offender got stabbed to death A post-mortem examination said the cause of death was multiple wounds including mutilation of the groin. He was a known sex offender in the Wandsworth area and had attacked a girl under the age of 16.

Everyone in my office is shocked that this could happen in our area literally down the road from me, but to be honest I am glad they did it and expressed this. One less perve off the streets.

What do you think?

OP posts:
ElectraInExcelsis · 12/12/2008 16:57

Well said as usual greensleeves.

crankycrane · 12/12/2008 16:57

castration is the only cure

and wannabe stop getting personal, I have not attacked you

jumpingbeans · 12/12/2008 16:59

If anyone raped my child, i would kill them,given the chance.i would not give a fuck about what sort of childhood they had, or what shit life had thrown at them.if that made me a murderer,well then so be it.

ElectraInExcelsis · 12/12/2008 17:03

So, how would that approach actually help jumpingbeans? What good would it do?

thisisyesterday · 12/12/2008 17:03

yeah cos you know what would be best for your child after s/he has been abused?

for their mum to go to prison for 20 years.

how thoughtful of you.

jumpingbeans · 12/12/2008 17:04

It would stop him raping any other child, that would be enough to make me sleep at night.

PeachyBidsYouNadoligLlawen · 12/12/2008 17:04

Yes jumopingbeans I think many people would

do we now that the murderer/s in this case ever even met the dead man though?

there's a reason juries are made up of people distant from the crime and that is that it is normal to feel vengeful, violent even to the person who hurt your child: that very nature prevents us from making great judgements

What if someone hurt your child, you were told it was X and then afterwards the Police were found to have gotten the wrong person?

If the OP were the family of the abused eprson then I would understand if not agree: te chilling fact is she does not appear to be.

CatIsSleepy · 12/12/2008 17:04

how does going to prison for murder help your child?

PeachyBidsYouNadoligLlawen · 12/12/2008 17:05

'do we now that the murderer/s in this case ever even met the dead man though?'

obv that should be the child abused

motherinferior · 12/12/2008 17:05

But nobody has raped your child. Or crankycrane's. Or are you playing the 'I feel for all children as if they were my own' card?

I'd hate to have a violent mob living nearby, actually.

PeachyBidsYouNadoligLlawen · 12/12/2008 17:06

(Was it definitely rape then? just says sex attack n BBC news)

I say just as in no more info, not as if it means anything else is less significant

Lockets · 12/12/2008 17:07

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Lotster · 12/12/2008 17:18

What he did was awful, and what they did was awful. All horrid.

What I don't understand is why a man who ruined a young girl's life only served four years? If he had been given the proper time, he wouldn't have been on the loose to be murdered...

PeachyBidsYouNadoligLlawen · 12/12/2008 17:21

Do we know what he did though?

Sex offences are (apparently)
Rape
Sexual assault
Engaging a person in a sexual activity without consent
Sexual activity with a child
Causing a child to watch a sexual act
Child sex offences committed by children or younger persons
Meeting a child following sexual grooming

If it were the last nothing may have actually happened yet, so life not ruined?

(Do hate the life ruined bit as an aside- was sexually assaulted at 15 by a man at a bus stop and raped at 17, life very clearly not ruined)

WinkyWinkola · 12/12/2008 17:27

Whatever he did (and his crimes are vile), it's not for anyone outside of the courts to decide his punishment.

It's far too dangerous.

goldFAQinsenceandmyrrh · 12/12/2008 17:29

according to a news report I've just found it was for "unlawful sex with a 15yr old".

It would be interesting to note (for those that say "good" - or words to those effect) that

"Sara Payne, whose daughter Sarah was murdered by a convicted paedophile in 2000, and who campaigns for more information on sex offenders to be made public, said the attackers were "no better" than the man they killed.

In an interview with Independent Radio News (IRN), Mrs Payne said she was appalled by the attack. "My initial reaction is of gut-wrenching. I find this vile killing of another human being revolting. It's foul," she said. "This man may have been a sex offender and may well have had children in his home, but these people that have committed this act are now murderers. That makes you no better.""

hecAteAMillionMincePies · 12/12/2008 17:40

well, no doubt I'll get flamed, but I too do not care that he's dead, if he is a sex offender. I have not one ounce of regret that a man who does such things is no longer living. Can't bring myself to be sorry about that, or to wish he was alive again .

However, I think that we cannot have a society where people dish out diy justice. We just cannot. Can you imagine where that would end up? A free-for-all. Society would crumble.

So while I am not in all honesty sorry when a sex offender is killed, by that I mean that I am not sorry for him that he is no longer living, I am sorry that the proper channels for justice were not followed, because that is a dangerous road to go down. However, the justice (or lack thereof) system is another problem...

CoteDAzur · 12/12/2008 17:42

Sex with a 15 year old is not the same thing as molesting a 5 year old.

tiredsville · 12/12/2008 17:42

What I find distressing is the soft sentences these judges give the paedophiles. (Apart from high profile cases.)
I don't condone this sought of voilence, but at the same time I certainly will not be loosing any sleep over this man's death.

MrsMattie · 12/12/2008 17:43

Agree with hecate. I don't think we can condone this sort of thing - not if we want a civilised society and not a lawless, violent one. However, I'll be totally honest - I felt nothing but relief and a strong sense of 'good riddance' when I found out that a serial rapist/paedophile that lived locally to us when we were kids was murdered recently.

noiamnot · 12/12/2008 17:44

I would have no problem with this if it were one of his victims or one of their immediate family who killed him

noiamnot · 12/12/2008 17:45

and most child sexual offenders do not only have one victim.

WorzselMincepieYummage · 12/12/2008 17:46

My first thought when i read the story this morning was 'he got what he deserved'.

Its a pretty disgusting way of thinking i agree but thats it, i cant change it.

PenelopePitstops · 12/12/2008 17:47

agree with Wannabe throughout

how can a gang of murderes living next door be better than a paedophile living next door?

Vigilante justice is not the answer, no matter what the crime

noiamnot · 12/12/2008 17:49

I sincerely doubt (though I could, of course, be wrong) that the killers of this man will go on to commit more murders.