To think that if you have a Caesarean, you have still given birth?

[Cupofteaplease]

I got talking to a pregnant lady yesterday and conversation turned to pregnancy, birth and beyond.

She said she hoped her baby would be small, so childbirth would be less painful. I said that my babies were both 8lb + and I loved having chunky babies! She said, in reference to me having 2 caesareans, that it didn't matter how big my babies were because I hadn't given birth to them.

Now obviously, I knew what she meant. But I still felt a bit . I would still say I have given birth to 2 children, even if they were extracted from me! Am I wrong in saying this?

You didn't think much of the CS then theramones? I've often said I'd rather give birth without pain relief than have another CS.

Obviously you haven't given birth. The baby you're holding is just a figment of your imagination.