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to not allow ds2 to have mmr jab?

862 replies

TheLadyEvenstar · 28/11/2008 22:40

I don't think I am, after ds1 had it i noticed a major difference in his behaviour and don't want to go through it again,

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2AdventSevenfoldShoes · 28/11/2008 23:01

do you know. i read these threads and really feel for you all. I am so glad that I missed this (dd13 and ds 16) I only became aware of the link when dd was 2.
It must be a really hard decision to make now.

TheLadyEvenstar · 28/11/2008 23:03

2advent, i made the decision regarding ds1 to let him have it and there were noticable changes.

with ds2 i have said no and not on the spur of the moment either.

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FairyMum · 28/11/2008 23:04

well, I just think its a bit unscientific. Its a bit llike saying my child refused to brush his teeth after having the MMR. Probably just a coinicidence? So many changes almost daily at that age I think.

ronshar · 28/11/2008 23:04

I think the recipe used is different now. Because there has been so much bad press with regards to the whole immunisation issue the medical establishment has really had to make sure the stuff they are putting into our children is as safe as they can make it.

I wasnt trying to be judgemental, but lots of the mums I have spoken to over the last 9 years, since I became one, alot of the problems stem from a fear of things they dont really understand. I apologise if that doesnt apply to you.

I am 34 and I had the single vaccines because MMR hadnt be invented yet. Crap that makes me sound old

J2O · 28/11/2008 23:04

I thought dd2 was due for hers next week, but i;ve just realised its for men c booster and Hib booster, are they the same? i can't find her red book to check {blonde duh emoticom}

TrillianAstra · 28/11/2008 23:06

"I remember a time when it was unsafe to have the measles and mumps jabs any closer together than 3 months between"

Just guessing, but vaccines change, they get modified, made safer, so you can have more at once.

goldilocksandmylittlebear · 28/11/2008 23:06

BUT HE WILL MIX WITH OTHERS AT SCHOOL!!!!!!

TrinityRhino · 28/11/2008 23:07

I dont find it a hard decision to be honest
the reason children aren't dyin of complications form these diseases are becasue of the immunisations

you child so your choice but if everyone doesnt bother then od knows what will happen
the link to autism has been shown to be unfonded
wouldn't you rather your child changed than died

also you cannot prove that the change had anything to do with the mmr

but then I can;t prove that it didn't...

so yes, your choice but so not one I would make

HAPPYMUMOF5 · 28/11/2008 23:07

Ds 1 had his at 3.10 and ds 2 at 2.10

I think mmr is fine - just not at 12 months. Their little bodies change so much and can cope with so much more by the time they are 3 and 4 that they cant at 12 months.

My doc was great and fully agreed with me so i was very lucky not to have any pressure

TheLadyEvenstar · 28/11/2008 23:08

Ron, no need to apologise. I am not fearful of the jabs BUT it is not only my ds i have seen a change in.

I think the evidence i have seen has kinda made the decision for me.

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goldilocksandmylittlebear · 28/11/2008 23:08

J2o Yes at 12 months its the two injections Men C and Hib

TheLadyEvenstar · 28/11/2008 23:10

Goldilocks, he has a long time until he starts school. I may change my miind by then but i don't think i will.

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J2O · 28/11/2008 23:10

~Goldi-thanks

goldilocksandmylittlebear · 28/11/2008 23:10

What evidence have you seen Thelady.....

Yurtgirl · 28/11/2008 23:10

My ds has aspergers - he was born with it. He has been 'interesting' since birth, my h still claims to have noticed before ds was a month old

Ds had the mmr, he is now 7 I dont regret it because I know he is vaccinated against a nasty disease.

morocco · 28/11/2008 23:11

this is my pet hate subject of today
i gave ds1 his mmr booster after years of resisting and only after being repeatedly told there was no chance it would cause a relapse in his auto immune condtiion
well guess what?
the great number of specialists i consulted were wrong and i was right
but that's not making me feel too great

so stick with your instincts cos you have to live with the consequences not anyone else

goldilocksandmylittlebear · 28/11/2008 23:12

And what if he caught measles at 2 whilst shopping in Tesco's!?

Are you saying you won't have the singles? I guess if you son was affected by the MMR, you wouldn't know if it was the M, M or the R bit?

goldilocksandmylittlebear · 28/11/2008 23:14

HAPPYMUMOF5, were you worried about your little ones catching it? My son is at nursey once a week and I would worry if I left it a year (which I can understand) that he would be at risk.

TheLadyEvenstar · 28/11/2008 23:14

Goldilocks, the main thing i saw was the change in my cousins son, He was a happy baby starting to talk etc had the MMR and yes he had a bad reaction to it, swollen glands etc when he was 5 he was diagnosed as having aspergers. My cousin could also pinpoint the change in her ds. Sadly she was unable to cope for a long time and i ended up bringing him up for the best part of a year before she moved back in with her mum.

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Jackaroo · 28/11/2008 23:15

I can give you a real-life example of a child who had his MMR but still got measles because of the low compliance in their area. He was so ill (complications) that he ended up in hospital. So finishing one of your sentences with "lol" doesn't go down well here....

The "I'm fine and so is mum" stuff is a crock too... just because you don't know people who's babies died/became blind/men who became sterile etc etc, doesn't mean it didn't happen. Do you bother to put your child in a car seat? Because in the 60's they didn't worry about it.

It sounds as if you're trying to justify a choice that you're not convinced by either. Don't know if this will help:

www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs286/en/

You need to make the choice based on what you want, but don't expect everyone else to condone it when you are risking their children, and particularly very small babies who don't yet stand a chance. Now that we've all been immunised, children are, if anything, more susceptible to it than they were before. That might make you angry, but it appears to be true.

As to behavioural changes - if you can swear that your DC never has an additive cross their lips, has never been exposed to another virus/chemical overload in his life, then....... you may be able to prove, where no one else has, that there is a connection with MMR.

TheLadyEvenstar · 28/11/2008 23:16

Goldilocks exactly I don't know which affected him who does in these cases??? I am just not willing to do it to another ds. I have to trust my instincts and they are telling me not to.

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escortss · 28/11/2008 23:17

yes you are
yes you are
yes you are

have you seen what effects these diseases can leave children with??? are we really equating a possible link with childhood allergies, and a completely diecredited link to autism with the possibility of severe long term ilness and disability resulting from diseases such as measles.

it is not a choice that you make for your child- (your child would want to be safe and well) it is a choice that society makes in order to safeguard all children, including those unable to have the jab.

I never understand why people are so suspicious of medics and medicines- ask yourself why they do it.

can't believe that you have got away so lightly.

'I noticed a change in my toddlers behaviour' me too- about once every 5 minutes!

morocco · 28/11/2008 23:17

wish I'd stuck to my guns now

StewieGriffinsMom · 28/11/2008 23:18

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TheLadyEvenstar · 28/11/2008 23:18

Jackaroo, I added LOL in reply to J20 as we have already had this chat on the phone earlier today.

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