to want to post on the "For my husband to earn £65,000 per annum and we still can't afford to live"..... thread because it's full???

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i cant believe its full and and havent had my say.....

xenia your ability to rabble rouse and make spurious statements knows no bounds.how do you digress to alleging sahm are fat.

Good Lord, how will we ever progress whist all we can do is snipe at each other and score points on each others choices?

I have never seen more people offended and offending in one thread

Xenia your work here is done....stop poking people's soft underbelly with a silver tipped stick.

xenia wrote: "I suspect I might not look as good too as I would be fed up being only a mother and would probably eat junk food, get fat and not have that obligation to dress well which goes with some types of work "

She sounds like a catch: apparently she looks good, works really hard, has lots of money, is a doting mother, dresses well and has hobbies! Well done, you'll have no trouble finding someone to love you dearly.

Forgot so say, you do sound adorable.
Good luck!

I can't remember how we got on to weight. But I can't see how my babies were any worse off being looked after a combination of me, their father and their nanny all of whom bonded with them from day 1.

You also have to think of your children long term. If you look at the impact had this family survived on their father's teacher salary over the last 24 years or his plus mine - massive difference in our life and lifestyle and opportunities for the children. Plus better for my mental health to work anyway.

must ALL sahm/working mums threads descend into stereotypical tribal dribble?

I think Xenia is currently writing a thesis about the "WOHM V SAHM debate,in the context of the 21ST Century and internet chat forums to do with motherhood".We are providing a rich seam of qualitative data

Because SM there are women who need to slag others to justify their own choices. Very sad really.

Good grief, not just law but maths is now being slated as well!!

Maths is fascinating!! Ok, so some of the stuff you learn at school isn't that exciting, but just about everything I learned about maths outside a classroom has been.

nmc - of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion - I'm just surprised that any adult can make such sweeping generalisations about such huge subjects. It's a bit like saying politics is boring, or literature is boring!

How sad that some people are so narrow minded!!

Ftr - are you saying that you think every subject/thing should be interesting to every person. Surely it's reasonable to think that some things are boring to some people even if you find them interesting.
Do you find everything interesting? Don't you get bored by anything?

my friend does maths for business analysis and risk management consultant.no trigonometry i promise.travels extensively,loves her job

"I'm just so suprised that any adult can make such sweeping generalisations about such huge subjects"

FTR I am amazed someone can about denigrating the role of the SAHM,tbh.

I am a SAHM currently,though have never been before.I am on career break due to circumstances beyond control (MY hard earned savings used,not DP,he has none)

YES it is great to be employed and have a role outside family life,yes it is good to earn own money etc etc,but that should not be seen as be all and end all of experience.I have also learned a lot from being the SAHM of under 5's.It IS difficult,it is also challenging in a different way to employment.It is no less valid than being employed.

Like SM sayed it is sad all such debates spiral into an arguement.Can we not just "Live and let live?"

you picking on my posts again river. Why is that?
Yup, I hate maths. I find it dull. you don't and neither does my dh. bully for you. Hate physics too and the poetry of John Dunne. Gawds, Shakespeare has me alseep before the first line.

Why is it you can't accept that someone might dislike or find dull something you like? Lack of imgaintion maybe? narrow mindedness?
And why ignore everyone esles posts on the same topic except mine? I seem to recall you stalking my posts before. Gosh, do I feel special.

"We are providing a rich seam of qualitative data"

sadly you're not. You are all just saying the same old things everyone always says to yourselves (and good luck to you).

Would be very interested in someone pointing out anything that has been said differnt to anything said before this year (will exclude threads for previous years to allow newbies to have their say at least 4 or 5 times on teh same topic) - just in the interests in saving me trawling through the thread.

righty, off to bed. bicker on laydees

I think school does a pretty good job of turning most people off Maths.
Must go hubby hasn't had a blow job today, now the kids are in bed I must get that in before the day ends. It's Monday tomorrow who knows what hotties he'll come across whilst I'm doing the school run in my track suit.

Aww Kewcumber I was making a JOKE!!!

juule - of course people will find various things boring! I never suggested that there is nothing I find boring!

But I do find it odd when people state that a topic which is simply HUGE is 'boring' - and particularly when they attach a judgement to it eg 'I'd hate to work in law'. TBH it's such a huge area that even when you work in law, there are going to be countless other aspects which you know very little about. So to make a judgement when you don't even work in it is rather narrow minded I think.

NMC - get over yourself, I was simply responding to posts where you misquoted me.

No Xenia, you clearly cannot see how YOUR babies could have done better. That's not the point. Other familes have other demands, other preferences. Let's face it, if your ex was a teacher I presume he was around after school and all during the holidays. Most women who work full time don't have that advantage. So that is a difference between your family and many others - can you really not see that all situations are different. If your ex had worked the same hours as you did, then things would, presumably have been very different for your children. Also you now work from home don't you? That's also a luxury not available to most f/t working parents - and it is a luxury, which I know because I work from home myself. In my case, not only was going back to work absolutely disastrous for my baby son's happiness, but it started to make me extraordinarily miserable. I PERSONALLY would be very, very unhappy if I had no choice but to work outside the home. I happen to think that adults have the right, together with their partners, to make decisions about what suits their family. For me, both partners doing well paid, rewarding, part time work while the children are small seems ideal. But even that wouldn't be for everyone.
(I find maths utterly deadly too. I am perfectly aware other people find it fascinating, but that doesn't make me find doing maths interesting!)

er my dh trained in law, worked in law....and found it staggering dull!
It could be argued that it is very narrow-minded to not realise that some things are dull to other people, even if you find them fascinating. I find sport very boring. Motor-racing, in particular, is the dullest thing I can imagine. My dh loves it. It's fine. Chacun a son gout and all that, eh?

"On the other hand a stay at home mother who knows she only has her meal ticket husband as long as she looks sexy and keeps him interested perhaps has more incentive to stay fit and look attractive when he comes home from work."

Sorry what the feck is this? This might be true in Hollywood where people are so fickle women are always being "traded in" for the lastest model. This is not the 50s anymore where women are expected to "refesh themselves" and have the children lookuing pretty when hubby comes home. And of course warms slippers and a nice G&T to take away the stress of HIS day.....

mabanana - bad mistake to train and work in something you can't stand. Hope he's changed direction now.
I find some aspects of law pretty dull too - but I made sure I worked in an area which was interesting (to me!!).
I have since changed direction and do something which I find even more interesting.
I agree, motor racing bores me too. Wouldnt agree that all sport is boring though - I loved watching those male cyclists in the Olympics

Findtheriver - off topic but out of interest - are you a big REM fan?

here is a thought xenia is a wind up merchant.she throws bait y'all respond.time and time

come on!her 2 stereotypical representations of women demure but dumb sahm(and fat too) or sassy ball breaking avaricious career types

Portofino - YES!

(Oh god, are you going to tell me you find them boring now!!)

SM - I wouldn't mind if Xenia were just a wind-up merchant but she manages to get the national papers to carry her claptrap on a fairly regular basis.

Xenia - just wondering how using your sexuality to further your work went over in Iran?