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to want to post on the "For my husband to earn £65,000 per annum and we still can't afford to live"..... thread because it's full???

527 replies

chockywocky · 07/11/2008 21:17

i cant believe its full and and havent had my say.....

OP posts:
findtheriver · 09/11/2008 18:36

No, we're not financially dependent on two incomes now spotty. But certainly were in the earlier stages of our working lives.

Claire236 · 09/11/2008 18:38

spottyzebra I agree with river. Unless you want to know what SAHMs will do when their children leave home as well. I think maybe you should go & start a whole new thread if that's the case.

policywonk · 09/11/2008 18:38

Right, I really have to go and do some, erm, work now

If you see me posting on here again tonight you have my permission to say something really bloody rude about me. Again.

bagsforlife · 09/11/2008 18:41

Me too, can't understand how I managed to get myself embroiled in all of this.

needmorecoffee · 09/11/2008 18:42

me too. Have to cook dd's lunch for school tomorrow and go over her statement cos the LEA are trying to stiff us again.
I reckon I know more about the Education Act and the DDA than most lawyers! Its a full time job just getting dd what she needs

ScottishMummy · 09/11/2008 18:52

i see this has descended into a sahm/working mum slug-it-out thread.why are any of us so bothered about another parents decisions?

do what you have to do
accept that we all have different needs.
op was quite lively

findtheriver · 09/11/2008 19:03

which reminds me needmorecoffee.... one of your earlier posts mentioned that you find law really boring and that you couldnt stand to have a career in it.

This is the kind of generalisation that is pretty offensive to many working people. I wouldn't prsume to slag off the field you trained in- so why diss other peoples?

And apart from anything else, the legal system is such a HUGE structure , and so important in so many aspects of life that to dismiss it as 'boring' seems pretty unbelievable. Sure, there are no doubt some aspects of law which are dull, but there are many which are fascinating.

If one of my teenagers told me 'law is boring'then frankly I'd feel sorry for them for having such a closed mind.

needmorecoffee · 09/11/2008 19:07

am I not allowed an opinion? Xenia said she finds sah boring (thus slagging off all of us), I said I find law boring cos I do. Am I not allowed an opinion? I'd also find computing boring and tree surgery.
Cos thats me. I'm not you and I'm not Xenia. I find law boring. So sue me! Just cos something is important would not make it less boring to me. And I didn't sya others wouldn't find it boring cos we're all different.
I can't stand meetings either with agendas and bits of paper. I do have to do some and I sit doodling. But lots of people enjoy them.
I am allowed to find things boring you like River. Go pick on someone else.

needmorecoffee · 09/11/2008 19:09

I just asked dh if he finds me saying law is boring an offense to working people. He said no, why would he. He is/was a mathematician. So I told him I find maths boring too. He said 'so what? You're different to me' and didn't take offence at that either.
I reckons you're a tad over-sensitive. You'd probably find my work I did boring and if you told me I really wouldn't be offended or even care cos we are all different.

ilovemydogandPresidentObama · 09/11/2008 19:09

law is boring

needmorecoffee · 09/11/2008 19:10

feel free to slag of psychology. I really don't care or mind. Its what I trained in. You can diss brains too. They are important but I can understand why others find them dull. Diss away and watch me not care at all.

needmorecoffee · 09/11/2008 19:11

ilovemydog - you are offending everyone now you bad lady you. lawyers have feelings too

Niecie · 09/11/2008 19:11

Scottishmummy - you are right. I don't care about others choices at all.

I think the problem with these threads is that other people do find the need to judge others choices if they aren't the same as their own. They pay lip service to choice.

Findtheriver - I HAVE read your posts that is entirely the point. You don't say it directly you imply it with the remarks about how we all have to get qualified and work and we can't rely on anybody else parents/DP/DH/Sugardaddy to provide for us.

We are having a discussion about whether it is a good idea to work or stay at home not the merits of educating girls. That is taken as read - educating girls, is a good thing. I don't see why it needs to come into a discussion of working lives after children.

Besides I don't feel that SAHM are 'relying' on their DHs any more than they rely on us. It is a partnership. He works (in my case) I look after his children so that he doesn't have to find the money for somebody else to do it and he can get on with what he loves to do whilst I get one with what I love to do.

"why would either one of us want to give that up totally, when it's quite possible and achievable for us both to work and to be parents? "

Because we have the choice perhaps? Because we want to, because one or other of us, as parents, thinks it's a good idea for one of us to be with our children as much as possible whilst they are small. That is maybe why one might want to.

Niecie · 09/11/2008 19:15

Law isn't boring - lawyers sometimes but not the law. I loved studying it, I just wouldn't want to be stuck in an office doing it all day.

Psychology on the other hand I would like to do all day and I loved studying that too. It would be the one thing that got me back working for somebody else. But then I suppose it isn't your average desk bound office job.

What type of psychology did you train for NMC?

twinsetandpearls · 09/11/2008 19:15

Niecie I think it was me that said women should create their own security. I am a living example of what can go wrong if they rely on someone to do it.

policywonk · 09/11/2008 19:16

Oh God YES niecie, I agree with every bloody word of that.

And yes, I know I said I wasn't going to be posting any more...

needmorecoffee · 09/11/2008 19:19

neuropsycholgy Neicie, its why I like brains. I did train as a clinical psychologist too but doidn't enjoy that as much as research.
Agree with what you say about a partnership.
Policy, you told us to tell you off
I got halfway down the Statement of Educational Needs and my one brain cell fell out and rolled away. I'll do it tomorrow.

Niecie · 09/11/2008 19:19

Twinset - I think FMTR said it too (I checked since she said I was talking rubbish I wanted to be sure of my facts). I don't disagree with the need for security. I just don't agree that it doesn't mean that we can't step off the working treadmill for a bit.

Policywonk -thank you

policywonk · 09/11/2008 19:21

I'm going, I'm going

twinsetandpearls · 09/11/2008 19:22

Niecie on Sun 09-Nov-08 19:11:53
Besides I don't feel that SAHM are 'relying' on their DHs any more than they rely on us. It is a partnership. He works (in my case) I look after his children so that he doesn't have to find the money for somebody else to do it and he can get on with what he loves to do whilst I get one with what I love to do.

"why would either one of us want to give that up totally, when it's quite possible and achievable for us both to work and to be parents? "

But what if one of you does change your mind, what if you want to leave, what if your dh meet someone else. Your DH is not trapped he can leave and take his financial security with him. Not a nice thought and not a predicamant I would wish on anyone but it is a reality that needs bearing in mind.

Could you support yourself, do you have money to fall back on if the worst happens and you need to make do for a while. Do you rely on your dh for your retirement plans?

I am not saying don;t be a sahm I did it myself and it was some of the happiest years in my life and a fantastic start for dd. In my opinion and experience though naivety and trust can backfire, and it is women and children left in the shit.

twinsetandpearls · 09/11/2008 19:24

Possibly I have been outfit hunting niecie and just knew I had said it.

I agree there is nothing wrong with getting of the treadmill as long as it is an informed thought out choice.

SheikYerbouti · 09/11/2008 19:25

I just like kittens. And embroidery. And baking. And I never raise my voice in front of a man.

[former SAHM]

I find law boring. And poetry and dance music and sci-fi. It doesn't mean these things are boring though.

Most folk would find my job deathly

Niecie · 09/11/2008 19:26

Neuropsychology is fab

I am doing an MSc with the OU and my last course was on neuropsych. I am just starting one on psychological research methods. Possibly not so fab but we will see.

Clinical psych on paper sounds great but I am probably too old to do that now and I am not sure I am cut out for it anyway.

Don't know which way to go when I have finished my MSc. Choices, choices.

SheikYerbouti · 09/11/2008 19:28

I am also pissing into my gin right now about Xenia thinking that if you stay at home then you eat cake and sit on your jacksie and get fat and spotty and only wear clothes fashioned out of potato sacks and some old Winceyette.

lolololololol

Bless her

(tris not to mention colleague at work whose arse spills over the side of her chair and who eats crisps all day. Yes work keeps you slim. Tis true )

twinsetandpearls · 09/11/2008 19:29

Have to admit I did eat a lot of cake and get fatter when being a SAHM, spent a fair bit on my backside as well perhaps that was just me though.