To have reported these builders ?

[beanieb]

At lunch time I walked to the nearest shops to work and passed a site where there are retirement homes being built. As I walked by a couple of builders whistled and shouted 'oy' . I noticed a sign outside the site saying something about 'considerate construction' so rang it immediately! I wasn't rude but I did point out that shouting at people walking by was hardly considerate.

Why do I feel so guilty then!? MEH!

sorry - I am not sure who I meant then

sorry - am in a particularly bad mood now!

sorry - I was responding to Custardo!

what is over thinking - fgs dont be a pedant quatro

its clear i dont consider whistling of builders sexist.

no wonder no one dare stand up on a train or dare open a door

And LOL, I love the idea that it's over thinking for a woman to complain about being harrassed on the street, but it's not over thinking to start worrying about the poor unemployed builder unable to buy his dd a new bike for christmas...

custy is right as always

I really can't see any link between being thoughtful ie on a train and being harassed on the street.My ds always lets women sit or older people and he is 14 and has never had it thrown back at him.Dp the same and he always open doors etc as is v old school and has never noticed anyone getting annoyed.

FWIW - while I think it is quite sexist my Ire was mainly because I find it embarrassing and annoying, particularly when they claim to be considerate.

Custardo you may not find it sexist but I would hope you could accept that some people really don't enjoy it and don't see why they should be told to put up with it.

Absolutely LittleWhizzingBella !

I stand up on trains and busses for people who are less able to stand than I am. And I hold doors open for people. So does DH. And I will bring up dcs to do the same. It's called good manners.

It's sod all to do with harrassing people who walk past whether because they are women, or black or disabled. (Except of course that this is bad manners, as well as everything else that makes it offfensive!)

Oh, the line that poor ickle men are so oppressed that they wouldn't DARE offer someone a seat on the train is pants, it really is. If someone needs a seat more than you, you offer it to them - man, woman or child. Lazy male chauvinists love to trot out the 'women are so scary' line to justify their selfish, crass behaviour. I don't think we should let get away with it.

As far as I can tell, men stopped offering seats to ladies just for being ladies the minute the first woman said hang on a second, why are you paying me less than a man?. We still haven't got equal pay or equal representation or equal anything, really, but that didn't stop men taking full advantage of the fight for equality by dropping their side of the old bargain.

Historically men never stood up for all women anyway - only those they considered 'ladies'.

whistling as someone walks by is hardly harrassment, get a grip.

Custy isn't it harassment if you feel harassed though.I would hate it so it would be.My sister would like it so maybe to her it wouldn't be but its a horrible feeling to be hollered at if you don't want it.

Everyone has a right to walk around without being yelled at in any sort of sexual way.

I reported someone across the road from me a month ago for yelling something about 'tits' at me - he was either fired or removed from the development opposite.

I did this because I think it unacceptable against me and further because I have a vulnerable (previously sexually abused), very beautiful 10 year old foster child living with me and I didn't want her to hear it and have to deal with yet more adult sexuality.

Can't believe some of you think this is ok

IT'S NOT FECKIN' OK, RIGHT!

I used the word Harrassed earlier I think, I wasn't meaning harrassment in the way most people think of it these days (ie a prolonged thing) but I did mean it left me feeling Harrassed as in uncomfortable, pissed off, embarrassed. More so because of the claims they were making onthe billboard.

Custardo, if the subject of harassment feels harassed, then it is harrassment.

And it's not "whistling as someone walks by" it's targeting a specific (female) individual with whistles and cat calls. (Oy oy oy etc.)

Why are you so determined to insist that this is decent acceptable behaviour to which we should all submit?

dictionary definition

If you are harassed, you are anxious and tense because you have too much to do or too many problems to cope with.

why would you be worried if men you didn't know failed to carry out a male bonding ritual while you passed by?

God why would anyone be flattered by the attention of people who have so little regard for women.

Argh this post is making me feel so irationally angry!!

WHY ARE WE PATRONISING THESE MEN??!! By basically saying 'oh it's okay, they're just builders, let them have their fun' which is what you ARE doing, as you can bet you wouldn't feel the same way if it was a man in a different proff making these remarks/ catcalls.If I may c&p my earlier post which has ben handily ignored as no-one seems able to reply!

Okay all of you, imagine you walk into your new GPs surgery and as you do, the doctor wolf whistles and looks you up and down before giving you your examination? Why should we expect less from builders purely because of the job they do as opposed to an accountant/ teacher/ manager?

Would you feel happy if your husband/ brother/ son was doing the same thing? Honestly?

Would you be happy to be wolf whistled at by a doctor/ shop assistant/ bank worker?