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To think all this talk of sex education is patronising to teenage mothers

413 replies

roseability · 23/10/2008 21:40

A lot of teenagers want to start a family and know perfectly well how to use a condom

As a society we have actually created the problem by stigmatising teenage pregnancy. It doesn't conform to socioeconomic norms of educational and economic success thus it is wrong. By making it 'wrong' teenage mothers are marginalised and often receive poor antenatal care and fewer opportunities for themselves and their family.

There were actually more teenage mothers in the 1950s than in the 1990s. Of course in the 1950s it was acceptable to have a baby under the age of 20 (as long as you were married). I am not advocating forced marriage but the fact that society accepted it meant teenage mothers got a better deal (in terms of their image anyway)

Define teenager. There is a big difference between a 13 year old who does fall pregnant accidently through poor knowledge and a 19 year old who chooses to start a family young, but doesn't expect to be judged just because she isn't fulfilling society's expectations.

We are not going to stop teenage pregnancy. There are much wider socioeconomic, psychological and political issues surrounding young motherhood than sex education.

Personally I would be more worried about STDs and the damage to young people's health, this is where sex education should be aimed at.

I am sure teenage motherhood is tough and there are issues about the welfare of young mums and their babies but to conclude my point, it is society that has caused such issues. I am also sure that there are many great young mums doing a better job than older mothers.

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SqueakyPop · 24/10/2008 14:17

Why do you think I would want someone stoned? What a stupid thing to say. I just want children to have some retrospect and do things in the right order. That means being a child and not pretending to be an adult. Most of them cannot behave as full adults.

because we have the freedom to have an 'anything goes' lifestyle, it doesn't make it right.

expatinscotland · 24/10/2008 14:19

What about boys? So the girls should all keep their legs crossed but the boys are just sowing their wild oats by shagging whatever comes their way without a thought to supporting any children they father?

Why is all the girl's fault?

expatinscotland · 24/10/2008 14:19

What about boys? So the girls should all keep their legs crossed but the boys are just sowing their wild oats by shagging whatever comes their way without a thought to supporting any children they father?

Why is all the girl's fault?

filz · 24/10/2008 14:20

"Women are not expected to marry, have children and be tied to the kitchen sink. Women can now have careers and intrests ouside of the home"

We have choice, thank god. Some women still choose the marry, children and stay at home route though, it doesnt make them inferior. I didnt want to wait until my 30s to have children either, it doesnt make me inferior

SqueakyPop · 24/10/2008 14:20

It does indeed take two to tango. Now, if the girl could remember his name...

filz · 24/10/2008 14:22

wasnt the csa designed to make sure these young men at least financially contribute something to their childrens upbringing?

pingping · 24/10/2008 14:22

Expatinscotland I don't think they are getting that.

Its always the way though just because the girls carry the baby its there fault and they should be Shuned

They must think that all these girls are Virgin marys mircle babies

expatinscotland · 24/10/2008 14:23

'Now, if the girl could remember his name...'

Because of course it's all her fault and she forced him to have sex with her and not use contraceptive . . .

Sorry, but that's just a downright sexist things to imply. That's it's always because the girl is nothing more than a bitch in heat.

expatinscotland · 24/10/2008 14:23

'Now, if the girl could remember his name...'

Because of course it's all her fault and she forced him to have sex with her and not use contraceptive . . .

Sorry, but that's just a downright sexist things to imply. That's it's always because the girl is nothing more than a bitch in heat.

expatinscotland · 24/10/2008 14:24

sorry for double posts. this site keeps crashing my browser.

pingping · 24/10/2008 14:24

SqueakyPop you really do have a bad impression on the women in this sitution what because your a teenager it means you have sex with loads of different people and you dont know who the father is?

YOU WATCH TO MUCH JEREMY KYLE love it aint always the case!

filz · 24/10/2008 14:25

I think squeakypop imaghines all teenage mothers are like vicky pollard

pingping · 24/10/2008 14:26

PMSL Filz

SqueakyPop · 24/10/2008 14:27

She's the one left, literally, holding the baby. He may have totally scarpered and not even know that he has offspring.

If you can catch them, then of course they should be held accountable. But do they really have much to offer via the CSA?

pingping · 24/10/2008 14:28

SO you now assume all teenage parents are single parents??

filz · 24/10/2008 14:29

why SP, are they all 'underclass', 2nd generation unemployed and feckless freaks?

you are stereotyping too much

SqueakyPop · 24/10/2008 14:30

Don't you?

SqueakyPop · 24/10/2008 14:31

and you are making excuses, fliz.

If you don't think that teenage pregnancies represent a problem to society, why do this lax government think so?

filz · 24/10/2008 14:32

what does it matter? i have already been told to accept I am paid for by the taxpayer

SqueakyPop · 24/10/2008 14:32

the shame

filz · 24/10/2008 14:33

if you are that bothered why dont you go and volounteer for a few hours at your local surestart centre?

roseability · 24/10/2008 14:34

Again these are huge generalisations

As I said in my original post, a lot of young mums choose to do it this way and with stable, loving partners. Why should one norm fit all?

In some ways I would love my children to be approaching their teens now. I would maybe understand them a lot better and of course I would have a lot more freedom and youth on my side.

In no way am I trivialising how hard it is for some younger mums. But as pingping said not all young mums are in poverty

I also hate the view that prevention of pregnancy is all down to the girl.

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filz · 24/10/2008 14:34

sorry, are you really suggesting I dont claim DLA for my severely disabled child and piddly carers allowance?

you are more ignorant than i thought

SqueakyPop · 24/10/2008 14:35

I don't keep track of everyone's individual situations. I am sorry to have neglected yours.

SqueakyPop · 24/10/2008 14:36

I am a teacher to teeenage girls - I am doing my bit.

And I am not wishy washy about their 'choices'.