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To think Jim Davidson is probably not the most enlightening contributor to a programme about political correctness and to want to explain in the most violent terms why the word Paki is not equivalent to the word Brit or Aussie?

78 replies

LittleBellaLugosi · 21/10/2008 22:13

FFS.

Clive James, Radio 4. That moron Jim Davidson has me frothing at the mouth.

For anyone who genuinely doesn't understand why the term "paki" is not equivalent to the term "brit" or "aussie", it is because the term Brit or Aussie is merely a shortening of the words British or Australian, and neither word has ever carried any pejorative meaning.

The word Paki, otoh, was always, always used pejoratively. It was used indiscriminately to describe anyone from the Indian sub-continent - or even, anyone from anywhere east of Italy. If you were an Afghan, an Iraqui, an Indian, a Sri Lankan, you could be called a Paki. Hence, Paki is not merely a shortening of the term "Pakistani", it is a pejorative term for anyone with dark skin who is not of African or Caribbean descent.

OK? Got that? If someone could explain that to Jim Davidson while they're on their travels, I'd be grateful.

I thank you.

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childrenofthecornsilk · 21/10/2008 22:14

Did he try to defend using that term then? What an idiot.

compo · 21/10/2008 22:14

step away from the radio
there's a love

nickytwoooohtimes · 21/10/2008 22:15

He is a farking bell end.
You can't reason with stupidity like that.

MrsMattie · 21/10/2008 22:16

Jim Davidson is a complete and utter thicko twat.

childrenofthecornsilk · 21/10/2008 22:17

Why does he even get a chance to air his poisonous views? It's disgraceful.

PeaMcLean · 21/10/2008 22:18

nob.

is no one on the progremme saying this???

scaryfucker · 21/10/2008 22:19

didn't he die yet ?

Tommy · 21/10/2008 22:19

he shouldn't be allowed to be broadcast IMO. He is an ignorant gobshite

WinkyWinkola · 21/10/2008 22:19

I was listening to that programme too today and was amazed Jim Davidson was given a voice. He's a wife beating pillock.

childrenofthecornsilk · 21/10/2008 22:20

Exactly WW.

LittleBellaLugosi · 21/10/2008 22:22

Oh has he beaten his wife up as well as based a career on racist jokes?

Bleedin' charmer, isn't he.

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StayFrostyShiversDownMySpine · 21/10/2008 22:25

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Tommy · 21/10/2008 22:27

shall we see what range of insults we can offer on one thread about him?!

Amandoh · 21/10/2008 22:33

He said that if Labour ever gained power then he'd leave the country. So, we duly voted them in yet he's still here!

Why has he suddenly started turning up on tv and radio again?

He's an odious little man and I switch over when I know he's coming on.

Carmenere · 21/10/2008 22:37

No in fairness I think he lives in Dubai which kind of fits. I mean the whole place is a manufactured shrine to commercialism and excess and is not generally troubled by taste.

did anyone see him on the Piers Morgan darker side of Fame prog. He is a truly pathetic person.

LittleBellaLugosi · 21/10/2008 22:40

Oh God it so fits.

I cannot understand why Radio 4 are giving him airtime.

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Amandoh · 21/10/2008 22:42

Ooops, my mistake. I didn't realise he had gone. Is his sudden resurface an attempt to pave his way back?

MorrisZapp · 22/10/2008 11:51

Give him the rope, he'll merrily hang himself.

He's a national embarrassment, wherever he now lives.

onager · 22/10/2008 12:18

The word Paki, otoh, was always, always used pejoratively

needmorecoffee · 22/10/2008 12:19

he's the twat who refused to do a show when he saw some wheelchair users were in the audience. Said he didn't want to see 'drooling spastics'

nooOOOoonki · 22/10/2008 12:27

Onager - I have no problem including any culture

but if you are insinuating that all older white working class londoners think that the use of the word Paki is anything other than offensive for then to use then you are very much mistaken.

Peachy · 22/10/2008 12:35

YANBU

he's a prat

I am ot wanting to give too many detals obv but a close friend had reason to know him well as a child- she thougt he was a rigt prat and on the one occasion our paths should have crossed- [anger]

onager · 22/10/2008 12:36

Well I know of some who didn't use the word that way including myself. Jim claims to know of some too. If you want to claim that the word Paki was often used pejoratively that's fine.

I'm not talking about now, but the time and country of my birth.

Carmenere · 22/10/2008 12:37

Ignorance and hatefulness is not cultural how very odd to want to identify with JD

SixSpotBonfire · 22/10/2008 12:42

JD is a waste of a human skin.

Onager, tell us more. I have to say that my own experience (as a white Irish woman who has lived in London since 1986) is that white working class older Londoners often assume I am "one of them" and are quite frank with their views to me and as a result I have listened to a lot of racist twaddle. But if you have experiences that belie that, I would be interested in hearing about them.

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