to think doing coke and breastfeeding are incompatible?

[MrsBates]

Well, I know I'm not being unreasonable really but what are your thoughts? Was at a party recently and two mothers who are breastfeeding were taking coke. One says she is a 'bit naughty' to be smoking spliffs in front of her children but at least she and her husband only do it in the garden. One mum did say she is breastfeeding mainly to lose weight. Nice.

I wasn't a saint back in the day but now I have children - no way - and while feeding?! Still I do have too much wine sometimes and think that is sort of OK. Where do your draw your lines (you know the kind) about recreation of the drug kind?

[SpandexIsMyEnemy]

and to think there are people who would love the chance to be mothers and can't.

the line re drugs - there is no line to draw, I am a mother, I have responsibility for my child, I drink the odd glass of wine during the week maybe, but I do drink yes when he's with his dad & I don't have him the next day.

to put your own needs/wants above that of your child when this sort of thing is concerned is immensely selfish - for the most part it is in any case in fact.

[zippitippitoes]

i thought people who did coke knew everything

[Oliveoil]

I remember going for my appointment with my midwife and sat under a poster saying "keep your Methadone out of reach" with a picture of a child reaching for a cupboard

[mind boggles]

[Oliveoil]

they know everything zippi and are also witty and vivacious

for 7 hours non stop

[ParCark]

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[SpandexIsMyEnemy]

(here here oliveoil - a good night out for me means a meal in a posh place - ie not having a little person dirtying my clothes with mucky hands and a soft play area by the side! couple of malibu's and good company/conversation.)

[2beornot2be]

But Olive oil anyone with half a brain knows not to smoke whilst pregnant yet there is lots of leaflets etc on not smoking or drinking so yes maybe if the effects of Cocaine to a young baby was pointed out more alot of Mothers BF mothers would think about it before indulging themselves.

I don't agree with people doing charlie around children whilst pregnant or whilst BF but I think what they do when they do not have children with them is down to them regardless of there age etc. But the after effects are not that nice and does not come recomended.

[CoteDAzur]

"I think that if you are a parent you put your drug taking days behind you"

And I think you have no business deciding what other people (adults) should be doing for fun, without their kids around.

"partying for me would mean a good meal, wine and maybe an embarrasing jig around a dance floor"

Yeah, and you are entitled to it. Just as other people can have their own idea of 'partying' and it might involve swinging from chandeliers, drugs, orgies, whatever.

It is unreasonably judgemental of you to think everyone should live the way you do.

[cupsoftea]

ndth & seashells - not to judge or comment as not sure what to say but just to acknowledge your posts.

[Oliveoil]

oh don't set me off on smokers, I will get into judge mode and there'll be no stoppin

[Oliveoil]

I am not deciding what other people should do

I am judging and giving my opinion

if folk want to risk their health and life and the future happiness of their family, then fill yer boots

[zippitippitoes]

i do find it surprising that coke is considered ok by so many people in the media who will avoid say sweatshop clothing or buy organic and yet cant care less about the problems that coke production and the supply chain causes

and this then extends to choosing to remain unaware of the extreme dangers it poses to a breastfed baby

[AbbeyA]

Anyone who can only have a good time by chemically altering their brain is very sad IMO.
I can't believe that we can have pages on whether a 5 yr old should be allowed lemonade and yet people are willing to do untold damage to their own body, even worse they risk their baby with breast milk!

[spicemonster]

Bloody hell Oliveoil re the meth poster. But that illustrates the point surely? People that take recreational drugs aren't generally the meth-heads that you see hanging around on the street corners, they're middle class professionals. And pretending otherwise is quite dangerous.

[AbbeyA]

Middle class professionals should realise they can be addicted. They might be taking them at a party in a very expensive neighbourhood but it is still seedy.
Drink is entirely different. When your DC gets to be 18 you can go out for a drink with them or have a bottle of champagne. Unless you want to share a line of coke with your DC when they come of age you shouldn't pretend it is OK.

[blueshoes]

I am reading for the first time on this thread about the risks of taking cocaine and bf-ing. It sounds like a complete no-go, as compared with the risks of smoking or taking alcohol.

Agree wholeheartedly that from a public information point of view, the risks should be more widely broadcast. I have had 2 babies on the NHS, attended all my antenatal clinics, read all the leaflets, but never once did I read or hear anything said about class a drugs and bf-ing. Cocaine is a middle-class drug.

Even if a baby managed to survive the immediate physical effects of ingesting cocaine through breastmilk or inadequate care from a drug-addled mother, I cannot imagine what cocaine would do to the developing nervous system of an infant. It does not bear thinking and IMO quite categorically child abuse

[zippitippitoes]

you can however breastfeed and be on a methadone programme

it is possible to give a baby the benefits of breastfeeding in that situation

[2beornot2be]

I don't know why you all think its middle class professionals that do Cocaine maybe ten years ago it was but not these days Coke is so cheap and mixed with so many different chemicals and is by far the easiest drug to get hold of easy than weed sometimes. I say this as after a recent visit to sunny Letchworth in Hertfordshire every where I looked I see people taking or buying Cocaine I saw a 17yr line up outside the pub 17 she was and Letchworth has some areas of middle class but most of it is not and anyone drinking in a weatherspoons really is not middleclass

[CrushWithEyeliner]

litchick

they may seem clever and healthy now but health and psychological problems relating to drug abuse during PG may happen years later - well into adulthood

[CoteDAzur]

"oh don't set me off on smokers, I will get into judge mode"

You mean you are not on 'judge mode' yet?

Heavens help us.

[2beornot2be]

PMSL at CoteDAzur lol

[Oliveoil]

well excuse me for not wanting to put my children at risk

oh I am soooooo lame

[2beornot2be]

No one said you was lame Oliveoil

[Rhubarb]

lol at the no partying once you are a parent!

I used to have a drink whilst breastfeeding, I didn't get pissed however. I would never ever take drugs whilst pg or breastfeeding.

However I am a parent, of 2 lovely children, I get pissed some weekends. I've been known to stay out until 4am and then dh gets up with the kids (he gets his turn too!). Just because you are a parent doesn't mean to say you have to stop living. I'm far too young to turn into my mother.

But I am truly shocked at GPs offering drugs to friends they know are bfing. And also shocked at the relaxed attitudes to bfing and drugs some people have. I always assumed that those mothers who breastfed did so for the sole benefit of their babies. I would have given them gold stars for parenting just for this alone! So it shatters my illusion hearing that these mothers will happily take coke at the same time.

I would have no qualms at all in shopping them. I don't care what their situation is, someone needs to give them a good hard slap.

[BroccoliSpears]

Am at coke while BFing.

I only ever drink 7UP or Tango or other non-caffinated beverages while BFing.