to be fed up for my DS to have to wait & shiver to use the showers after swimming whilst Mums of girls wash & condition their childs long hair ?

[CaptainUnderpants]

Arghhhhh ! Really bugged me the other day . This is in the family changing area , why cant they use the ladies changing room if they only have girls .

My boys come out of their swimming lesson and have to wait whilst the showers are being hogged by these women !

My eldest Ds will now use the mens changing room so he doesn't freeze when getting out of the pool but my youngest will just have to wait !

Rant over - do I need a hard hat ?

This reminds me why I don't usually get embroiled in 'debates' (I use the term loosely) on mumsnet - because everybody has their fixed opinions and they ain't shifting

Tbh most of the time I think you are all barking!

Please post a piccy of you in a swimming hat Slarty so that we can all have a rip roaring belly laugh (OMG you are all so nuts!)

omg i dont wear one

Ok - and there is no paradox in this?

lessons make them wear them, tis helpful

This debate is so funny.

I was ranting yesterday because when I ran in with ds at the last minute trying to do a speed strip into his trunks because we were so late for his lesson, I couldn't find a cubicle that wasn't bagsied full of other people's kids clothes. How selfish! Can't they use the lockers or lug a rolled up towel into the cafe like I do?

Never gave a thought to showering because we always do it at home ... within a few days or so

I'm afraid my DSs don't have a shower after swimming - they just get dried and dressed, and have a bath at home after tea .

I fear that may win me slobbish parent of the week this week...

Are these some sort of municipal lessons of which you speak?

Anyway - I've lost the will to live. Dd is getting one of these save us from the shower fascists

She would rather be a social phariah at school than inconvenience anyone. It is but a small sacrifice.....

I just take them home and shower them, but then I have had 8 years of weekly swimming lessons, and my kids are not getting cold for anyone.

jesus - perhaps we can all agree that lickleolme deserves an MBE (8 years??? - shudder)

OMG!!!!!! How have you stayed sane?????

blimey. 8 years. You could probably have had your own pool built at home for the money you've spent on lessons in that time

I just keep saying to myself TWO YEARS TO GO then ds will be at secondary school and I am a stopping the lessons.
Dd started her group swimming lessons at 6, and last year she swam 3 miles, she finished her lessons 3 years ago, but still comes when ds has his lessons and has a swim. Ds is 9 and has cerebral palsy he started his at 4 and has private lessons. (I could cry when I think how much we have spent) a lot of £ over the years but ds has to have the same ops as dd. So I grin and bear it and trot along to sweat it out watch him because he enjoys it.

The minute they can be in water and not drown I'm stopping.

Now that we have such a seasoned swimming lesson attending mum on hand, can you please tell me how long it will take before 6 year old dd can swim 25 fecking metres? (she's been going to bloody lessons for 2 years)

Sudden thought...do you think the weight of all that hair conditioner is dragging her down?

YANBU, happens here too and it always comes across as really selfish - oh we will spend 5 mins washing and conditioning dd's hair while the remaining children freeze and can't get dressed.

HMC, If she is not swimming 25m by xmas (or even half term) then over the holidays I would get her a private lesson.
The way I see it I would rather spend £14 on a private lesson and one lot of petrol, than another term of lessons with a daughter who was loosing confidence in her self inwim.
Take the next few weeks to have a look at the instructors to figure out who has the right personality to teach your child and who your dd would listen to, and ask specifically for them and tell them what your dd wants to achieve. DD's favourite teacher was a stick and carrot sort of lady, and dd blossomed when she was with her. Whilst ds has the most kindly grandad figure to teach him and wouldn't cope with dd's ex teacher.
Apart from that have you and her dad tried taking your dd swimming and all of you getting in at the top and swimming down. When ds swam his 25m in may dd and ds's instructor swam either side of him from the top (while I looked on and had a panic attack)
Sorry that was an essay

It was a helpful essay lickleolme, and I appreciate it. Tbh dh and I don't go swimming often enough with the dc's

HMC - crash courses are the way to go IMO. DS got nowhere in 2 years of weekly lessons. This summer he had one week of daily (group, half hour) lessons, two weeks of swimming with us on holiday, then another week of lessons, and can now easily do 25m front and back.

She's had a crash course too! (she has her dad's 'no swim' genes)

Ah well. Worth a shot.

yes, but thanks anyway (don't wish to appear ungracious as well as shower hogging! )

I've always envied girls with long hair until this summer when I watched a mother groom her dd's knee length hair after swimming for 25 minutes! God knows how long it took to wash and condition it too.

Don't give up hope hmc. DS started lessons at 3 1/2 and didn't do a length until he was 7. But he is getting there and improving these days.