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To want my family to pronounce ds2's name correctly?

235 replies

FrannyandZooey · 02/09/2008 12:30

I am honestly not sure if I am. I feel like this is a big deal and want them to get it right, but they are all so convinced that their way is the right way, and it doesn't seem to matter what I say, that I am wondering...

It is a slightly unusual name that can be pronounced two ways. Not hard to say, at all.

If IANBU, how do I deal with this?

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cat1978 · 03/09/2008 15:24

I think I have said this before... I just love MN as I ALWAYS find what I am looking for
Sherida: You would be surprised I have a friend who doesn't say my sons name right, his name is one of the most common names around but still insists on saying it wrong... i thought about saying her dd's name differently to see if she picked up on it but thought that would make me just as bad lol

3andnomore · 03/09/2008 15:39

Franny, my point about Lucian Freud was actually not made to you but to all those that said but Lucian Freud is pronounced Loo-cee-un rather than Loo-shun....because his parnets will have pronounced it the german way ( I would think) so when they moved over to an english speaking country the people there would probably try to "copy" the way his parents pronounce it and then you get Loo-cee-un rather than Loo-shun!
Like I said, to me, personally it makes far more sense to pronounce it Loo-shun and it seems to be the correct way to pronounce it ....and all those that confuse Lucian with Lucien....well...need I say more

hans...hm...but ava is ah-va isn't it....the girl that looked after one of my sons was called Ava and pronounced Ah-va....she was persian...

notcitrus · 03/09/2008 16:25

There was an Enid Blyton book (the Ship of Adventure, I think) with a character called Lucian, who got repeatedly confused with Lucy-Ann, so the 'lu-see-an' pronunciation must have been assumed.

Ava is definitely a two-way one depending on the nationality - wasn't Ava Gardner an 'ay-vah'?

Depending on accent, could be that the parents hearing 'lu-shun' are hearing it as a rapid version of 'lu-see-un' and their attempts to say 'lu-shun' are heard as 'lu-see-un'? My Midwestern American family can't tell the difference between Don and Dawn (or Bob and Barb), leading to lots of confusion...

Clary · 03/09/2008 16:29

FWIW I think it?s reasonable to expect family etc to use your pronunciation.

I would have said it lu-see-an myself, as I suspect many others will, but there you go.
All you can do is keep telling them.

Hel-in is quite a common pronunciation of that name, over the years I have concluded it?s a regional variant (not sure which region tho! But like, how Welsh people (or whatever) say it.

Evelyn is commonly said eve-lyn isn?t it (that?s how it?s written after all). Evelyn Waugh anyone? I do think it?s a bit of a pain to say a name in a less common way, simply because you will be correcting people all your child?s life. Reminds me of that scene in LA Story where Steve Martin asks SJP what her name is ? and it turns out to be Sandy ? oh no it?s actually SanDeE with a star above the a (or something).

Bronze · 03/09/2008 16:37

Calfrau- I just stick witht he first syllable or say Mrs M....

Just came back from seeing dds consultant. We've seen her since dd was born and dd is now over 2. Consultant still insisted on calling her Mia even though I corrected her twice and it is written all over her notes that she had in front of her. DD is Nia by the way.

bebespain · 03/09/2008 16:42

FrannyandZooey - You have my sympathies.

My DS name is Félix and as we live in Spain, Spanish DH etc we pronounce it the Spanish way ie: with a short -e as opposed to the long English -e Feelix

Now I understand that my English friends assume its Feelix but it does my bloody head in that even after correcting them and explaning umpteen times, they still insist on pronouncing it the English way. It makes my blood boil and I take it to be really dis-respectful and down right ignorant

Goes for lie down...

zwiggy · 03/09/2008 16:50

have you told them they are pronouncing it wrong? I think you should. Thats not an unreasonable thing to do, and if they take offence, then thats nothing to do with you. you can't really expect to name a child, tell people its name, then have them repeat a mispronunciation back to you. YANBU in the slightest. You need to say. its not Lucy un its Lu shun, you are wrong. and keep telling them until they say it right.

Ashantai · 03/09/2008 17:09

Both my kids have trouble with people pronouncing them. Taryn is pronoounced as Taren rhyming with Karen, but she gets called Tarin which used to annoy her but hey she's used to it now.

So second time round we chose Sharna, exactly as it sounds so why does her nan constantly call her Shauna!!!!

FluffyMummy123 · 03/09/2008 17:12

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TheSmallClanger · 03/09/2008 17:21

I agree with Notcitrus. To many ears, Loo-shun and Loo-see-un are virtually indistinguishable, especially where strong regional accents are involved. They might well think that you are saying Loo-see-un more quickly than they are. If that is the case, you will come across as nitpicky and irritating if you correct them.
It is easier once the child concerned can talk, as they will be quite vocal about how their name is said. My DD's name can sound different when some people say it, but she is much better at correcting them with charm than I am.

TinkerBellesMum · 03/09/2008 17:28

I find it amazing that anyone can think they sound the same. I'm deaf and can't hear the letter S very well and I can tell the difference and pronounce both.

SoupDragon · 03/09/2008 18:02

I had a friend at Primary school called Karen. No, not Karren but Kairen. It really wasn't difficult at all to remember the different pronunciation and I was only 7. you'd think a grown adult would be able to manange.

hatrick · 03/09/2008 18:05

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IRockThePartyThatRocksTheParty · 03/09/2008 18:30

Tis LOOSHUN in the same way that Cassius should actually be CASHHUS and Lucia LOO-SHA but people oft say names wrong and indeed my great grandparent calls my dd by her mn as she has given upo with her first.
Eleanor should most definately be ELLIE-NOR and not ella-na.

SoupDragon · 03/09/2008 18:54

IIRC she said it was the Manx pronunciation of Karen. I've not come across another one either

ImnotMamaGbutsheLovesMe · 03/09/2008 19:14

My middle name is Adele and never in my whole life has it been pronounced wrong until we had our wedding bands read and I became

..... A duh lay .....

I think the name Lucian is great but you and he will spend a ridiculous amount of time correcting pronunciations and spellings.

LuLuMacGloo · 03/09/2008 19:41

Hel-in (as opposed to Helene) and Ev-lyn here too in my part of Scotland. Have never, ever heard of Ever-lyn being used for a woman (or a man for that matter!).

Hatrick - I know a Karen who is a Kairen too - know this person I always thought it was an affectation but stand corrected.

Think Loo-shun is lovely btw (and correctly pronounced!)

hatrick · 03/09/2008 20:04

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Tutter · 03/09/2008 20:06

oh gosh, franny

read as far as seeker's post and agreed with her

yanbu

but i find it hard not to pronounce it loo-see-an

even with the 'a' spelling

i foresee much gnashing of teeth ahead for you

(lovely name, btw)

(but prefer loo-see-an)

pointydog · 03/09/2008 20:57

cod, you mean Looshy.

noonki · 03/09/2008 21:07

I have an unusal name and my mum and dad pronunce my name differently!!!

maybe they find it difficult to hear the diffence, I do with so many names (Marie/Mary, gets me everytime - dyslexia doesnt help!)

slayerette · 03/09/2008 21:18

Has anyone settled this debate once and for all by referring to the character Lucian pronounced Loo-shan on ER?

So that's that.

TinkerBellesMum · 03/09/2008 21:22

Yes, slayerette and the cramp twins, but they're American and don't count, apparently

slayerette · 03/09/2008 21:22

and of course if my ER argument isn't convincing enough, there's this

TinkerBellesMum · 03/09/2008 21:23

American...

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