To be shocked that my nanny cant cope with looking after my children full time in the holidays ?

[demandingboss]

Thats it really. We were away for the first 2 weeks.She has had them for 3 weeks and only has this week to go then she has a week off which is costing me a fortune to cover and then she has 3 days one week and 2 days the next and they are back to school.

Told me this am that she cant cope with having them 11 hors a day in the hols its just too exhausting and she spent all weekend in bed feeling poorly with the stress of it all.

She gets paid full time wages all year rund and has lots of perks ( and I maen lots ).

She seemed to be suggesting that they could go to holiday club so she could get on with some studying during the day!!!

I was so gobsmacked I just left and acme to work!

To be honest Im not expecting to get any replies to this as you will I am sure be too shocked to type!

sorry, should have mentioned its 2.5 days per week!

You could try asking your children what sorts of things they would like to do with your nanny - and with you when you're free to be with them - to combat boredom, then put some of those activities in a week-ahead diary and do them.

It's obviously gone a long time with your nanny being a lazy, uninterested moo so you're probably not going to change her now into something else so either sack her or have a frank, heart-to-heart talk about what you want from her and what you are not happy with (with the implication that you can always find someone else to do it as you want it done) and I'm sure she'll either buck up or leave. Neither option too bad by the sound of it!

whya re you out of the hosue for 11 hrs a day anyway? i tell you waht, you take a week off and look after your children 24hrs a day with no company at all and then tell me if you would do it with someone elses children fro a measly £300

i think you should let her go and find a nursery

that is truly shocking, DB.

sorry, but i find that shocking.

NP. She has been sat down on her laptap computer with a large cafietiere of coffee all afternoon...........

Yes but your calculation over pay is wrong because it has to take into account the fact taht all her living expenses are provided for (and a car and lots of other extras that normal mortals don't get...)
the hours are long in the holidays, but only for a few short weeks a year. And there is plenty of opportunity for a break. These are not toddlers and don't need minute by minute supervision.

that is not the point and you know it

a break means you r own time

where you get to do what you want

without respionsibilities

sitting down with tea doesnt count as a break. if the children needed her she would have to end her break

hey NP calm down. they are far too old to go to nursery and im not asking her to look after them 24 hours a day.....

Expat have you ever employed a nanny ? Why is it shocking ? I think its the norm. She does have a pot of coffee on the go all day and has breakfast lunch and dinner provided as part of the job albeit that she eats it with my DC's.

perhaps you should have a heart to heart.

If your dcs like her well enough then great, maybe its better the devil you know.

Perhaps you need to formalise the breaks issue better as it sounds like an important part of it all.

So how do I give my nanny a break if I am at work. Drive home in my lunch hour ? Employ 2 nannies ?

sorry. i am not in a good place with my own job just now. didnt mean to take it out on you

expat, that why people want you to live in, for the flexibility. I have had jobs where I have had no time off whatssoever as parents in St Lucia, Monte Carlo or whereever. and I am home with the children. I have lived in some fab houses and been given expensive presents, so there are perks of the job.

DB I became a maternity nurse, I only work when my dh is home.

No, DB, I haven't employed a nanny because from everything I've read here people who employ one expect a slave to work for slave wages.

TBH, the majority of such posts disgust me, not all, but most.

But then again, I would never farm my kids out for 11 hours/day, everyday, either.

Horses for courses.

But it sounds like she needs to focus on other stuff and you need to find alternative arrangements.

'expat, that why people want you to live in, for the flexibility. '

Yes, it sounds like the 'flexibility' is a one-way street, tbh.

No wonder the nanny doesn't have time to find a mate!

Sorry, I'm leaving this thread because, like most of the others, I find it really saddening.

db's children are school age, not under 5's.

She isn't enslaving the nanny - the nanny is choosing to work these hours. Well, I say 'work'....

dont worry EP, mine doesnt slave away for slave wages! I asked her how much she wanted, I paid it, I apprecite her very much.
She's great.

the 48 hour week only applies if there hasn't been an opt out - plenty of companies work within the law and require their employees to work beyind the 48 hrs (with no overtime).

Also don't forget the £300 is nett - ie after all taxes and NI have been taken off, so the actual hourly rate paid for her is a lot more.

Well done PT good on you.

NP Im sorry. I am a lawyer if you need advice.

Expat my nanny has a very nice life. She works part time 40 weeks of the year doing before and after school care. Her take home pay is pocket money as we provide everything...car food house broadband bills etc. She would need to earn 40k a year to cover it if she was live out.

We never leave our children overnight and are there for them at all school functions etc. To be frank if you had the opportunity to earn what I do you may change your mind.

But as you say each to their own. If you dont employ a nanny or never have you wont know the problems I am having. I only asked for advice.Not to be attacked about my life.

Expat you are right but noone is forcing anyone to take these jobs.

Having read your previous posts, I think it is time that your nanny moved on to a new job. She really doesn't seem happy despite having a good wage and perks and I know you've bent over backwards to give her the time off she has wanted even though it has been inconvenient and expensive to get cover. If she really feels that the working day is too long in the hols then she should speak up before hand and perhaps offer to work a short day, get paid less for that day and for the children to be in a holiday club or something similar. She is only to happy to work an easy work day, I notice! Good luck. It isn't easy to have someone living with you who takes advantage and to speak up when they are quite demanding, I know from my own experience.

ah, I think I wandered into the 'Working Woman are the reason why THE PLANET HAS GONE TO THE DOGS' thread!

Thanks simply I think thst is the discussion we will have although one of the reasosn I wanted a nanny was I wanted the DC's to enjoy some time at home in the holidays.

It is a difficult one.

JBJ do you think our pay hours and perks are unreasonable. She works an average 43 hours a week...........over the whole year.

What is the EU time directive on it?

Sounds like she gets a good deal to me (great salary!) but not sure on all the complexities. I guess you do being a lawyer!

Her contract opts her out as do all nannies and lawyers for that matter!!

Also remember that we take 5 weeks holiday in the holidays when she would be working longer hours so the reality is pretty good to be honset. Most favourable than if she was looking after preschoolers.