to think this woman is a cow? (topic may offend/upset)

[crazybuslady]

Was waiting for a bus yesterday, while at bus stop I saw a mother, dd (approx age 4) and grandma come to bus stop, had seen them earlier walking down the street.

DD didnt want to go on the bus she was crying saying she wanted to stay with granny. Mother mentioned to granny than dd was tired - hadnt slept that day. Mother started to wind the child up eg "you ARE going on the bus"..."noooo mummy dont want to" ..."well you are so there!"

Petty back and forth argument which was frankly rediculas, dd tried to walk away from the bus stop, the mother turned it in to an almost game, mother was laughing and chasing her but shouting swear words at her and telling her she was going to "batter you when we get in" I was Then heard a whack, and looked round to see the mum hit the child 2x. Child started sobbing - from her point of view mum was chasing her laughing next min she was being hit)

Now hittings not to my taste, but I realise some people do this so I just tried to look away - small bus stop though so not really possible.

Child was then wingey (was being ignored by mum who only spoke to her to swear at her) Child then said "I am NOT goin on bus I want to go to grannys" (I though no fekking wonder) And the mother literally dragged dd by her arm along ground. DD fell to ground sobbing, mother grabbed her collar and lifted her up by it shouting and swearing and whacked her 5 more times.

At this point bus came, I told woman if she hit her dd in my sight once more id call police. (Now in retrospect I shouldnt have said that, I should have just called, but I was furious and not thinking straight) We got on same bus mother told me to "fucking go ahead then"...so I did. (mother was now dragging child up bus by arm, I dont mean pulling I mean literally dragging, then whacking her again when she wouldnt sit on seat.

Police car was sent right away but didnt arrive in time before she got off the bus I gave a description etc. But as she got off woman threatened to "batter my face in, if she hadnt got the child with her" (I felt like saying go on then, Id rather take the pain than a poor child, then you will go to prison, child will go to foster care and be better off)

I wish Id followed them, police didnt get them If I ever see them again will phone again.

If she does that in public wtf does she do at home.

Well then firstly I apologise this is my first time on this site so I was unaware of your backround, and secondly I'm even more shocked that you aren't screaming for the police to come and check out this woman???

The police were called out in Edinburgh when a man was seen kicking a dog. Local newspapers carried the story for a while, public were disgusted and shocked by the behaviour.

Child gets beaten at a bus stop by their mother, op calls the police and is slated here for caring about a child.

Says it all about this country.

So what if it does go on her record - she beat her child!!

...and if you followed her from the bus and then called SS they'd also make a record - your arguments don't stack up I'm afraid

I'm just gob smacked that somebody who claims to have been in the situation that child was in would be critical of the OP's actions.
I too have been that child and looked at strangers with the begging in my eyes for somebody to do something, I've sat and listened to my mother lie to SS and wriggle out of what she did.
If you'd followed her home, reported her to SS with their work load the child could have been dead before they got to her.

she beat her child- whatever the situation. You hit a child more than once its a beating. How is she not evil? (Although I think evil is too harsh a word but you get my drift)

and it isn't a vicious witch hunt, it is the OP being caring enough to step in when she sees a child being attacked who is too small to help themselves - why can't you see that?

I agree with KatieDD I would give anything to not have the memories I have. I may never see my step-father again that the memories will be with me forever. It's never right however hard the parent is struggling.

SS don't always get it right and unfortunately I am speaking from personal experience through my work.

When children are involved, if you are at all concerned that a child is at risk, you have to take what action you consider correct at that particular time. If you thought about it for too long, well it might just be too late.

I give up. Lets hope this was a bad day and the poor mite is tucked up in bed ok.

The police would contact SS that procedure. So she goes to the station for questioning. Given the choice I'd take my SF being questioned to the abuse I suffered.

Great, SS, keep families together at all costs, then a family member murders the child. Not an experience I EVER want to go through again.

Sorry KM, I for one can not agree with you that having a softly softly approach is always the right one to take.

as others have said on here already, would you advocate kindness and diffusion to a husband beating his wife in the street? why is this different?

Kerry's Mum the violence you have suffered is obviously still hitting a raw nerve for you now because you are delibrately trying to wind up caring women on an internet forum, I don't believe for a moment you have any conviction in the words you are writing on here. Time for bed wouldn't you say ?

You should have grabbed the woman and sat on her and rang the police ;)

Citizens arest!

"The arrestor has reasonable grounds for believing that the arrest is necessary to prevent one of the following:

• The person causing physical injury to himself or others "

I agree KatieDD, too late to continue this and pointless anyway as Kerrymum clearly has different ideas of what is reasonable and appropriate behaviour than the majority of posters/people/ rest of world - think the OP has had her AIBU post answered anway - no YANBU!

Hitting anyone 7/8 times is bodily harm. If I hit someone in a club or on a night out I'd be taken in by the police - why should this woman get away with it? Cos she's a mother? Cos she's stressed? Why is she above the law?

lol I agree it's late and we are going over and over same arguments. so CBL YANBU!!!

I don't really understand why callig the police is such a bad thing. If this was a one off (which I'm very dubious about from the sounds of it, but giving the benefit of the doubt), then the mum will probably be appalled by her actions when she calms down, and take steps to reassure the police and her dd that it will never happen again. And be keen to make sure it never does, given the shock of being seen to be OTT enough in public for another passer-by to feel they had to phone the police. That would really make ME stop and have a good long hard look at myself. No real harm done.

If, on the other hand, this little girl is suffering at her mum's hands on a regular basis, a police visit should set things in motion to get them the help and support they need. To me, it seems like a win-win situation- at least for the child.

It reminded me, I was once in a similar situation, on the other side. DH and I were out at the park with dd and the dogs. He opened the boot and our dopey dog jumped out and started running round the busy car park. DH grabbed him by the collar to stop him getting run down and dragged him (a little- it's difficult not to when you are 6ft and the dog is small!) back to the car, whereupon a woman came out her car and started f'ing and blinding at him, calling him all sorts for "dragging" the dog back to the car. We walked off, but I felt quite shaken, so I went back and spoke to her politely. I told her that if she thought our dogs were mistreated she was perfectly within her rights to phone the SSPCA and have them investigate us, and that I was perfectly happy to have her do that- I gave her my name, and my work contact. What WASN'T her right, I told her, was to come screaming and swearing at my DH in front of my child. The point is, if you have nothing to hide, I would prefer to speak to people who have experience, rather than try to argue and justify myself to some woman who has taken what she saw the wrong way. So even from the POV of the party being reported, I would say CBL handled it appropriately