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Airbnb Host taking the piss

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crikeymikey123 · Yesterday 20:21

I’m staying in an Airbnb and working from my laptop. The Wi-Fi in my room was unreliable, and I had an important meeting, so I moved into the kitchen. The host suggested I use the spare bedroom instead for more privacy, and I’ve been working in there ever since. Some of her laundry was drying in the room.
After work, she walked in without knocking to collect a few items while I was in the middle of an important video interview. She also asked me to remove my own drying laundry from the room. Separately, I’ve asked her each night to turn the heating on, but she hasn’t.
Am I being unreasonable to expect her to knock before entering?

OP posts:
crikeymikey123 · Yesterday 22:38

I don't think it's a dodgy proposition, it's pretty common to wfh in an airbnb since covid

OP posts:
Doctordoolittle · Yesterday 22:39

crikeymikey123 · Yesterday 22:38

I don't think it's a dodgy proposition, it's pretty common to wfh in an airbnb since covid

If you rent an entire home, sure. If you are sharing especially with the host I would say it isn’t.

LumpyandBumps · Yesterday 22:42

It’s not often I side with an Airbnb host, but I don’t think she is being unreasonable.
There is WiFi in the property, including your room, but it’s unreliable in your room. I assume that means it’s fine for normal social use, but not sufficient for gaming or prolonged video calls. That’s not untypical of some domestic services. As you know you needed a strong signal did you check the WiFi with the host before booking?
As it wasn’t working well enough for you you unilaterally decided to set up video meetings in her kitchen. How long did you plan to be there? Being able to use the kitchen for a short time to prepare meals is fine, but not for hours on end. Did you expect her not to use her own kitchen in case the necessary noise caused disturbed your meeting?
She offered an alternative to that difficult situation by allowing you the use of another room. You then expect her to knock before entering a room in her own home, which she has allowed you to use free of charge, and complain that she has told you to take your laundry out of the room. Did she offer use of her home for laundry?

Aluna · Yesterday 22:43

crikeymikey123 · Yesterday 22:38

I don't think it's a dodgy proposition, it's pretty common to wfh in an airbnb since covid

Sure if you rent a whole flat. If you’re in someone else’s house, you have to ask. And ask about the WiFi.

Fortuity · Yesterday 22:45

AnotherForumUser · Yesterday 20:39

Airbnbs doesn't just have whole properties to rent. It looks like the OP rented one bedroom with use of the facilities such as a kitchen. This is actually how airbnb began. People would rent out a room in their own home in a very short term basis. It was a great way to enjoy staying in various places at a good price and I have met some interesting hosts. In the OP's case she had rented her bedroom which didn't have a good connection. The host suggested that the spare bedroom might be better for her rather than using the kitchen and hasn't charged her for two rooms. So no I don't think she has any justification to complain because the host is also using the spare bedroom for her own needs. The host could have just bustled around her kitchen where the OP would get even less privacy. If the OP has only rented her bedroom she can't lay claim to the spare bedroom for her sole use.

But presumably the room OP is letting has been marketed as offering Wifi. If you offer Wifi, you really need to make sure that it's reliable wifi. If you don't, then allowing the use of a separate room with better reception is the least you can do.

Fortuity · Yesterday 22:49

arethereanyleftatall · Yesterday 20:53

Actually, I’m calling reverse.

the op is the owner. She has had a somewhat cheeky guest who she let use a different room to work in for WiFi, assumed office hours. The guest now appears to think that this new room is also theirs, and is there in all hours and drying clothes in there.

Don't you think it would be cheeky to charge money for wifi and then only offer a crap wifi service?

Fortuity · Yesterday 22:51

LumpyandBumps · Yesterday 22:42

It’s not often I side with an Airbnb host, but I don’t think she is being unreasonable.
There is WiFi in the property, including your room, but it’s unreliable in your room. I assume that means it’s fine for normal social use, but not sufficient for gaming or prolonged video calls. That’s not untypical of some domestic services. As you know you needed a strong signal did you check the WiFi with the host before booking?
As it wasn’t working well enough for you you unilaterally decided to set up video meetings in her kitchen. How long did you plan to be there? Being able to use the kitchen for a short time to prepare meals is fine, but not for hours on end. Did you expect her not to use her own kitchen in case the necessary noise caused disturbed your meeting?
She offered an alternative to that difficult situation by allowing you the use of another room. You then expect her to knock before entering a room in her own home, which she has allowed you to use free of charge, and complain that she has told you to take your laundry out of the room. Did she offer use of her home for laundry?

Why is unreliable wifi fine for social use? If you are changing for it, it should be reliable, full stop. Guests will, absolutely reasonably, expect to be able to use it to chat to their friends, or to stream films etc, or mess around on social media, without regular interruptions.

madaboutpurple · Yesterday 22:53

If your employer is paying ,could you ask to be moved to somewhere where you get the whole place.

Fortuity · Yesterday 22:57

AnotherForumUser · Yesterday 20:53

No she only has that right for the bedroom she rented not for the host's spare bedroom which the OP has not paid for. She's been allowed to use a quieter room that doesn't mean it's fucking hers. Maybe the host should tell her to keep her work to the single room she rented and then she could reasonably complain if the host came in!

That conversation isn't going to go well, is it?

Owner: I'd like you to keep your work to the room you're renting.
OP: I'd love to. However, as I've already explained to you, the wifi which I am paying you for is unusable for work purposes in this room . So how do you suggest I do that?

Fortuity · Yesterday 23:02

Aluna · Yesterday 21:16

Right.

Some Airbnbs and normal bnbs don’t allow working from the room. It’s a bed and breakfast not a hotel. You should always ask ahead of time if the host is ok with it and whether the WiFi is reliable enough.

Which BnBs don't allow working from the room? That would be nutty. You can't seriously tell a paying guest that, if they want to answer their work emails or phone calls, or look at or draft work documents, they must do it somewhere else.

Livingthebestlife · Yesterday 23:14

This is fucking hilarious, Im literally laughing out loud. You hired a room, the WiFi is shite, the nice lady offered you her spare room to do a meeting and you've now taken over her spare room working and drying all your laundry. Like wtf ask her for a swap or a solution to the WiFi, plus she doesn't have to knock on her spare bedroom door.

Delphiniumandlupins · Yesterday 23:20

You need to talk to your host and confirm if she's still happy for you to work in her spare room as the WiFi in your room isn't good. You need to agree times when the room is available to you. You can't use that room to dry your laundry without her express permission.

Aluna · Yesterday 23:30

Fortuity · Yesterday 22:49

Don't you think it would be cheeky to charge money for wifi and then only offer a crap wifi service?

WiFi is included in the rental price. There’s no obligation to provide a fast and strong signal enough to do Zoom calls etc. Some places in the U.K. and internationally don’t have particularly strong signal.

AmnesiacDream · Yesterday 23:31

Agree you need to speak to the host and confirm you can have exclusive use of the spare room during your work hours or she needs to improve the wifi immediately. If she won't, then talk to airBnB about getting moved to a property that can provide what you've paid for. It seems reasonable that she asks you to move your laundry if you're only supposed to be in the spare room for the wifi, though.

Not sure about the heating request - What's the temperature in the house?

Aluna · Yesterday 23:33

Fortuity · Yesterday 23:02

Which BnBs don't allow working from the room? That would be nutty. You can't seriously tell a paying guest that, if they want to answer their work emails or phone calls, or look at or draft work documents, they must do it somewhere else.

Doing some work is not the same as using your bedroom as an office & working there all day: some hosts don’t allow it.

JustGotToKeepOnKeepingOn · Yesterday 23:34

The set-up is clearly not working for either of you. If this is for work, why isn’t the company you work for paying for more suitable accommodation?

BirthdayTrash · Yesterday 23:34

crikeymikey123 · Yesterday 21:25

@Endoadnowarrior coz i'm doing workshops / meetings for 1-2 days each week, the rest of the time I need to WFH

My company has major offices in London and Leeds and nobody stays for the whole week because they are doing 1 or 2 days in the other place. Travel between the two cities is a doddle so booking a room for 3 weeks for the sake of 3-6 days that you need to be there seems a bit OTT.

Aluna · Yesterday 23:35

AmnesiacDream · Yesterday 23:31

Agree you need to speak to the host and confirm you can have exclusive use of the spare room during your work hours or she needs to improve the wifi immediately. If she won't, then talk to airBnB about getting moved to a property that can provide what you've paid for. It seems reasonable that she asks you to move your laundry if you're only supposed to be in the spare room for the wifi, though.

Not sure about the heating request - What's the temperature in the house?

OP hasn’t paid for a second room. She can ask to rent the other room as well as it seems the host has 2 they rent out, but that assumes it’s available, it may not be.

RedThroatedWarbler · Yesterday 23:40

Fortuity · Yesterday 22:49

Don't you think it would be cheeky to charge money for wifi and then only offer a crap wifi service?

The charge is for the room. In the host's house. Who happens to have wifi in their house. Unless there is a specific surcharge for using it and she is advertising it as high speed, the host has not charged for crap wifi service.

Plenty of hotels I have stayed in charge extra for high speed. The included wifi is slow.

OffTheMap · Yesterday 23:50

Tricky.

You say it was ‘after work’ so did she expect it to work hours?
And she has given you another space in addition to your room.
Maybe swap properly if you want full private use?

Do you mean turn the heating on in the ‘spare room’ or in your room?

AmnesiacDream · Today 00:07

Aluna · Yesterday 23:35

OP hasn’t paid for a second room. She can ask to rent the other room as well as it seems the host has 2 they rent out, but that assumes it’s available, it may not be.

which is why the conversation includes the alternative that the host make the Internet connection, that was a part of her stated facilities, available for OP to use.

TheFormerMrsTruelove · Today 00:39

If the WiFi in your room is dodgy then you need to talk to her about either fixing it, or letting you swap into the room where it is working. Either that, or find different accommodation.

You are being outrageously entitled to take over her spare room with your laundry. I’m not surprised she told you to move it. And I don’t think she was inviting you to take over the room as your permanent work space either. Her not knocking was probably her trying to make the point that you shouldn’t be in there any longer.

Skdkhvyvrhej · Today 00:53

I think yabu. If your a self employed freelancer then your internet is your problem.

Get down to the 3 store tomorrow and buy portable WiFi.

I am also a business owner. We have 3 WiFi options at all times, 2 when not in the home (unlimited mobile tether and portable WiFi).

You can’t rely on other people. Not your provider. Not your hotel WiFi. Not your mobile network. If the buck stops with you and it matters then you need options!

Friendlygingercat · Today 01:43

Nowadays everyone expects decent wifi as a basic facility. The OP negotiated a different arrangement on the basis that a basic facility was not being provided. I think she needs to make the situation more assertively that when she is in a meeting the room is out of bounds. Otherwise it would be a great shame if she had to leave a poor review about the wifi being crap. That would certainly put off other bookings. Sounds like the host has a nice little side hustle going but it would be a pity to spoil all that ...

BruFord · Today 01:44

crikeymikey123 · Yesterday 20:52

I'm entitled to wi-fi though, she's sold the room with wifi and it's not workable...

That's the real issue @crikeymikey123 She advertised the room as having WIFI and it doesn't have reliable WIFI.

I think I'd complain and ask her to get a booster. If she refuses. contact AirBnB and explain that she isn't providing the facilities as advertised on their site. In London, the WIFI should be reliable, you're not out in the middle of nowhere.

If it can't be resolved quickly, I'd find somewhere else and cancel the remainder of your stay.