That parents taking babies on log flume rides are a sandwich short of a picnic?

[JellySky]

At Disneyland and the new Frozen ride has a 30ft drop. My bum lifted as we tipped over the edge. A baby went on the boat before us, I was terrified those parents would lose grip. The baby had to be placed with its back against its mother and legs under the bar, it was no older than 3 months old. Just because you can, doesnt mean you should!

Baffled that Disney allow it given that you have to remove ears and hats!

Two parents, a yoing child and the baby so parent pass could have been used.

You have to remove your ears??

Your Disney ears 😆

I’m with you OP, never ever would I have risked this!

It’ll be the ‘having a baby won’t change us’ brigade.

Ahh, that's a much less disturbing picture then (on the ears front anyway).

Bloody hell when you said baby I thought you meant maybe a 1 year old. A bloody newborn baby?! No yanbu

We did it when DD1 was about 12 months old on a really mini one at a fun fair. She hated it and I felt awful. Not our finest parenting moment. DD2 loved it though, totally different.

That's insane - so the baby is crushed between the bar and it's mother?

You said your bottom lifted up - which would mean the mother's entire body weight pushing the baby into the bar.

How can anyone allow that?

Madness that its allowed! I remember going on a log flume as a child/ young teen. I had my favourite wedge heels on, without which I wasn't tall enough. So my legs weren't really long enough to "lock" myself in meaning mum had to hold me with her knees and hold herself in.

Then a a slightly older teen, at a different theme park, the log flume broke down and we had to walk down a ramp from the top of the drop. No way could I have done that with a wriggly baby!

It’s honestly not that bad. Secured on a lap I think it’s fine. I do think the scale of the drop is somewhat obscured by disney though - I think people expect a gentle ride for little ones and I was surprised by the second drop

You’ve never been to Disney world before have you? Lol

Are you sure the child was that young? One of mine was tiny, looked like a 3 or 4 month at age 1. There are children with growth disorders etc.

Do you not think that Disney have tested that rides safety over and over again to make sure that allowing children of all ages to go on is safe? You don’t have to take your children but it’s very unlikely that the baby was actual risk.
And no, I’ve never taken my small baby on anything like it as we never took them to theme parks but I would 100% expect a place like Disney to know who’s safe to go on its rides.

To be fair, if they’ve not been on the ride before and DLP allow it then they’ll probably trust DLP’s judgement. They might have got off the ride it a right old panic

Definitely, the Dad had hold of it in one arm, no strength to wriggle or lift head etc. like older babies do. Not quite newborn.

I'm really shocked Disneyland allow that (and that anyone is stupid enough to do it). It's obvious the baby is in no way secure and it's a tragedy (and massive lawsuit) waiting to happen.

Rage bait…

If it was unsafe, Disney wouldn’t allow it. A risk assessment will have been done. It’s more than their reputation is worth to risk a child dying on a ride. You might choose not to do it and that’s fine. That doesn’t mean it’s dangerous.

Minimum height 102cm ...

I feel this is the case! Not everyone realises there is a huge drop and whilst there are signs I think that people don't understand how big it is because of the nature of the ride and staff don't seem to warn. I think they place babies in middle rows but thats the only mitigation!

My DC commented how the teenage boys in front who were all recording suddenly lowered their phones en masse at the drop, its that instinctive reflex to protect yourself that worries me, even though I know the strength of a mothers instinct.

So you didn’t feel quite awful enough not to do it again?!

That does sound very unsafe. I think any ride where you can't properly secure a child of any age would be dangerous, considering things can happen in the blink of an eye on these things

You must be mistaken

Agree. There are real-life videos of people reacting to sudden threats by running away, sometimes leaving a child momentarily behind before turning back.
One lone of thought is that under extreme stress, people can react with an immediate fight, flight or freeze response before they've had time to consciously evaluate the situation.

It’s really not that bad. It’s a bigger drop than you may expect from a frozen themed ride but it’s not unsafe.

But that's exactly why its unsafe.