UK at war within 1000 days

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Wes Streeting has said Britain must be ready for war in 1,000 days. This combined with the advice to stockpile while you can is highly inflammatory and worrying. AIBU to think that if there is a specific threat he should be specific? If it's a nuclear threat then he should say. We are lucky to have access to what is effectively a bunker but what can you do if you live in a bedsit in the London borough of suburbia?

Reform?

The enemy within is Tommy Robinson, Danny Tommo, Farage et al. So yes, they are worrying.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-france-deepen-nuclear-defence-ties-in-first-joint-exercise

I am more interested in being prepared to ride out a disruption to IT systems and their impact on connected natonal suply infrastructure.

We used to get 2-3 major security patches a month, this number has now increased to about 30ish due to AI bots crawling the net connected systems and flagging them up. The delay between a flag and a fix can be quite long in terms of impact to internet connected systems and creates a window of opportunity for exploitation. The recent disruption caused by the PHP issue being an example. The Danfoss fridge controls being two examples of how ide spread disruption can be caused by one issue.

Internet connected everything is convenient / cheap but not so robust to support our current way of life.
Can you imagne some cashiers being able to quickly work out your change in their heads? I think those days are gone.

People do tend to get jumpy at the prospect of war.

Streeting should have chosen his words a bit more carefully, he should have known what would happen. Burnham should never have given him a job IMHO.

He’s also giving quite a broad timescale there. It’s not stretching to say there will be a war within three years. Presumably by the end of the 1000 days, Labour and Streeting will be history anyway, so won’t be called out on their prediction.

I agree.
@MNHQ is there no way you can syphon off these current neverending panic/doom posts to a special place? They are becoming so common and I don't think most people are interested.

Nope. Islamist extremists are the greater threat. There’s only so many we can let in before it will create huge problems. They’re determined in their goal, and death doesn’t frighten them. We have people being ushered in who hate women, who hate the way westerners conduct themselves. It’s like a ticking timebomb. Tommy Robinson et al are amateurs in comparison.

'the growing threat of state sponsored terrorism.'

Does he mean the Labour Party? Council Tax up 5% in 2026, Politicians gave themselves a 5% pay rise, while the rest of are lucky to get 2% if that. Energy is supposed to go up 16% in January, why aren't they imposing profit caps. No doubts energy firms will be making record profits... again.

I think you'll be in for a shock because there's no general appetite for any other party and reform are crumbling away because they are criminals and not good people. Never underestimate the power of a government that wants better relationships with the EU.

The actual article is still enough to react to. We will increase defence spending by x has a different feel to we need to be ready for war and time stated in days.

Idk about the op but I can see why people react, it’s not like we have much control and headlines like that will provoke.

We had a special Brexit forum

Maybe a "The Coming Dark Age" one could be created ? With community action to report threads to ensure they stay in their lane.

Maybe someone could start a poll ? "AIBU to want a special forum for doomsayers ?"

I agree, sadly.
We have large numbers of people entering the country who do not wish to integrate, despise our way of life and have allegiances with regimes that operate terrorism here and elsewhere.
Suicidal empathy is a thing. I know, because I used to have it.

Or start a thread in site stuff?

Isn’t he simply saying that with the us pivoting away from providing protection to the west and the threats that are out there increasing we need to bolster our own defences and 1000 days is a reasonable amount of time to do that? Seems quite sensible to me.

Islam isn’t a race.

Furthermore, it’s actually racist of you to suggest all black and Asian people are Muslim or that all Muslims are black or Asian.

Take some time to educate yourself and free yourself from your ignorance.

Those words have been taken out of context for a start & it's about becoming resilient to the changing threats.

There isn't a specific nuclear threat but there is likely to be widespread, co ordinate cyber attacks.

If you went into M&S after the incident there it was carnage - bo products on the shelves, payments & ordering systems down, website down. The supply chain ground to a halt with effects lasting weeks.

Imagine that but taking out the entire food supply chain, leaving all retailers with the same empty shelves, or taking out the entire electronic payment system leaving people unable to purchase fuel or food or other essentials.

A cyber attack on utilities is also possible leaving a widespread part of the country with no electricity or no water

The government & country as a whole need to be prepared for how to respond.

It's sensible advice to have a couple of days food & water & some cash.

Think through the effect of having no electricity, water, access to shops or transport or internet or combinations of all those for a few days & prepare for that.

I live out in the sticks so have frequent power cuts & always the last to get re connected. I would say an fm radio & torches with spare batteries & a clock. It was very disorientating not having electronic devices to tell the time.

Islamic extremists don't represent ordinary Muslim people.

Your grandfather being fine with racism doesn’t mean everyone in that generation was. There’s plenty of examples of British people supporting the rights of black American soldiers and refusing segregation, for instance.

Be careful that shark doesn't bite your leg off.

Is it possible that all this prepping talk is just a nudge for us to go out spending in order to save the economy? Didn't covid have the effect of a temporary uptick when everyone went out panic buying?

You're right.
It's the ones I spoke of in my earlier post that could represent a danger.

You need to educate yourself that not all Muslims refuse to integrate or want to take over the country. Many have lived here for decades and are happily integrated. And you need to understand that extremist Muslims are more of a risk to moderate/liberal Muslims, esp in Muslim countries. Stop stereotyping all
Muslims as the same.