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UK at war within 1000 days

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HumbleStumble · 25/10/2026 10:45

Wes Streeting has said Britain must be ready for war in 1,000 days. This combined with the advice to stockpile while you can is highly inflammatory and worrying. AIBU to think that if there is a specific threat he should be specific? If it's a nuclear threat then he should say. We are lucky to have access to what is effectively a bunker but what can you do if you live in a bedsit in the London borough of suburbia?

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Gettingbysomehow · 25/10/2026 20:16

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 25/10/2026 10:55

"Russian tanks rolling across our borders".

Which borders are these then Wes? The famous Welsh border with Belarus?

Haha maybe down the channel tunnel.

MrsPapillon · 25/10/2026 20:19

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 25/10/2026 15:49

Not "wont", can't.

Don't know why I'm replying tbh, because you clearly aren't asking an honest question in order to elicit an honest response.

I mean, it’s very unlikely but it’s not impossible. When the allies entered occupied France on D-Day, they unloaded tanks from ships onto the beaches and headed inland.

cardibach · 25/10/2026 20:24

MissConductUS · 25/10/2026 17:52

My only contention was to refute the incorrect assertion you made that the US requested Article 5 action after 9/11.

I made no such assertion.

Electra10E · 25/10/2026 20:27

MrsPapillon · 25/10/2026 20:19

I mean, it’s very unlikely but it’s not impossible. When the allies entered occupied France on D-Day, they unloaded tanks from ships onto the beaches and headed inland.

Russia does not have the capability, quite simply.

MissConductUS · 25/10/2026 20:29

cardibach · 25/10/2026 20:24

I made no such assertion.

Apologies, I was referring to PigletJohn.

dreamingbohemian · 25/10/2026 20:52

MissConductUS · 25/10/2026 19:51

As I said, I thought it unlikely too, but wouldn't go as far as saying it was very silly. The Russians are unpredictable, and you have to plan for all sorts of unlikely events.

In military planning terms, it's called "honoring the threat", which means acknowledging and reacting to an enemy's potential or capability to do harm, rather than dismissing or underestimating it.

I guess, but threat = capability AND intention (and opportunity)
I think it's important to focus on the most plausible scenarios, Russia are not endlessly unpredictable.
If we're going to ask the public to be ready for war, let's be realistic about what that might be.

PigletJohn · 25/10/2026 22:23

MissConductUS · 25/10/2026 18:41

Healy has already announced 2 billion pounds in defense cuts.

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/defence/article/army-cuts-budget-boxer-vehicles-7zj7nfdnl

Incorrect person.

PigletJohn · 25/10/2026 22:28

@ThePerfectStormBird

Have you had any luck finding when and where he literally said "nothing in the bank for defence?"

HelenaWaiting · 26/10/2026 02:34

LillyPeacePlant · 25/10/2026 16:10

Russian bot stirring up panic and division?

Sad to say, there are enough alarmist numpties in the UK for Russian bots not to be needed.

EasternStandard · 26/10/2026 07:36

HelenaWaiting · 26/10/2026 02:34

Sad to say, there are enough alarmist numpties in the UK for Russian bots not to be needed.

Streetjng’s headline will alarm some, it’s probably the point of phrasing it that way.

Newbutoldfather · 26/10/2026 07:40

I still don’t see what Russia would gain by attacking the UK. I don’t blame them for being annoyed about the amount of support we give to Ukraine, but I think it is enough for sharp words, but not military action. (We are quite hypocritical about this as we get very upset about Russia and China supporting Iran).

They would be taking a huge risk of getting NATO involved.

And we do have some conventional weapons, both air fired and submarine launched cruise missiles. We could do a lot of damage to Russia’s command and control structure without going nuclear.

This feels like total hype to me, to deflect from domestic problems.

@EasternStandard,

,Streetjng’s headline will alarm some, it’s probably the point of phrasing it that way.’

The point being what?

EasternStandard · 26/10/2026 07:54

Newbutoldfather · 26/10/2026 07:40

I still don’t see what Russia would gain by attacking the UK. I don’t blame them for being annoyed about the amount of support we give to Ukraine, but I think it is enough for sharp words, but not military action. (We are quite hypocritical about this as we get very upset about Russia and China supporting Iran).

They would be taking a huge risk of getting NATO involved.

And we do have some conventional weapons, both air fired and submarine launched cruise missiles. We could do a lot of damage to Russia’s command and control structure without going nuclear.

This feels like total hype to me, to deflect from domestic problems.

@EasternStandard,

,Streetjng’s headline will alarm some, it’s probably the point of phrasing it that way.’

The point being what?

It might be to get funding in the upcoming budget. There’s only so many times a war headline can be used as a way to get attention and wanting more from Healey could be one of those times.

Or as another pp put below to sell in other changes to the public at the budget.

Just saw your total hype comment, it could be that also.

Frrrout · 26/10/2026 08:33

Scrambledomelette · 25/10/2026 11:55

Amazing how much dramatic 'be prepared' rhetorical terror is being drip fed into the media the week before a budget, eh? Won't we all be relieved when we only have to suck up another round of hikes and cuts to keep the boogeyman from the door?

This, 💯
We are led by career idiots of such enormous ineptitude, but they’re just cunning enough to know that fear makes people compliant and complacent about the stuff that actually WILL affect us. So they like to drip feed that fear, which they’re doing with great urgency, what with the budget due so soon.

Sure, keep 3 days of tinned food in (or as I like to call it, the weekly shop) and buy your radio, candles and torches if that makes you feel better. But it’s nearly like the same people who bought into lockdown so readily are buying into this and looking to both the media and our leaders for transparency and honesty. It blows my mind how people are nodding along so readily. These are the same ilk that locked you all down so easily and then had parties.
If you continuously tell people they’re on a war footing long enough, it keeps civil unrest down too, which is handy for the government right now, with the planned November demonstrations coming up. They like us cowed and compliant.
I have zero faith in this useless government to tell us the truth, or to keep us safe, regardless of whatever might crop up in the next 1000 days or beyond.
Going back a bit, there was a definite pattern when Theresa May was PM too. A major terrorist attack - the big fear of that particular time - was always foiled by the services just in time for some other shit news to be delivered by the government or evidence of bungling or corruption to come out, effectively diluting the evidence that that administration was useless too, as the media (and us) were all distracted, looking over there at what could have been a major attack.
Anyway, apparently we are all going to be wiped out by 2036 by AI, so any form of war or attack in the meantime is just the warmup 🙄

Whatafustercluck · 26/10/2026 08:41

I think those saying this is just hype and hyperbole from Streeting are being naive, when you consider the huge preparations (including digging trenches) taking place in both Poland and Germany. That's not to say that I believe war is imminent, but there's clearly a sufficient threat and the potential for accidental escalation.

Putin is likely to continue to test NATO's resolve and NATO countries, including the UK, are signalling back that we will be ready. Our (Europe's) relationship with the US has become so strained that we know we cannot rely on them. Then there's the war in Iran, and tensions with China. Anybody providing commentary on world volatilities at present is saying the same thing - conditions are increasingly right for it.

Will it be conventional warfare though? Probably not - at least at first. The advice on having 3 days of food, cash, fuel etc reflects that as an island country the UK is particularly vulnerable to things like underseas cables being cut, for example. Attacks on infrastructure, cyber attacks on financial institutions, supply chain breakdown etc - our reliance on technology is absolutely huge and that in itself makes us vulnerable.

It's no secret that the UK is actually behind the curve when you look at how other Europen countries are preparing. This 3 days prep advice has been commonplace in those countries for a very long time. Anyone taking notice of the government's own communications channels will have noticed this advice being included for many months now. The only new aspect is that high profile politicians are now actively saying it publicly. But the underlying message remains the same: we can't sleepwalk into complacency just because we've gone so long without a world war. We cannot continue to rely on others to be there and must therefore be self sufficient. That means UK, and Europe, from the US, and individual households from the everyday fuel and services that we take for granted will always be there.

EasternStandard · 26/10/2026 08:53

Whatafustercluck · 26/10/2026 08:41

I think those saying this is just hype and hyperbole from Streeting are being naive, when you consider the huge preparations (including digging trenches) taking place in both Poland and Germany. That's not to say that I believe war is imminent, but there's clearly a sufficient threat and the potential for accidental escalation.

Putin is likely to continue to test NATO's resolve and NATO countries, including the UK, are signalling back that we will be ready. Our (Europe's) relationship with the US has become so strained that we know we cannot rely on them. Then there's the war in Iran, and tensions with China. Anybody providing commentary on world volatilities at present is saying the same thing - conditions are increasingly right for it.

Will it be conventional warfare though? Probably not - at least at first. The advice on having 3 days of food, cash, fuel etc reflects that as an island country the UK is particularly vulnerable to things like underseas cables being cut, for example. Attacks on infrastructure, cyber attacks on financial institutions, supply chain breakdown etc - our reliance on technology is absolutely huge and that in itself makes us vulnerable.

It's no secret that the UK is actually behind the curve when you look at how other Europen countries are preparing. This 3 days prep advice has been commonplace in those countries for a very long time. Anyone taking notice of the government's own communications channels will have noticed this advice being included for many months now. The only new aspect is that high profile politicians are now actively saying it publicly. But the underlying message remains the same: we can't sleepwalk into complacency just because we've gone so long without a world war. We cannot continue to rely on others to be there and must therefore be self sufficient. That means UK, and Europe, from the US, and individual households from the everyday fuel and services that we take for granted will always be there.

It’s more about money than a headline though. If he had the required amount we’d probably see more announcements around that. It might be to try and get it.

But we’ll see in a few days and next year.

bafta16 · 26/10/2026 08:59

How do you know about trenches in Germany and Poland please? What is a trench going to do?

Whatafustercluck · 26/10/2026 08:59

EasternStandard · 26/10/2026 08:53

It’s more about money than a headline though. If he had the required amount we’d probably see more announcements around that. It might be to try and get it.

But we’ll see in a few days and next year.

It's a fair point that the higher prominence of this in the news right now could well be a political move aimed at just that. It is still true, however, that the threat is real, so people need to be careful not to discredit the actual message, as opposed to maintaining a healthy skepticism as to the timing of the overt message.

EasternStandard · 26/10/2026 09:09

Whatafustercluck · 26/10/2026 08:59

It's a fair point that the higher prominence of this in the news right now could well be a political move aimed at just that. It is still true, however, that the threat is real, so people need to be careful not to discredit the actual message, as opposed to maintaining a healthy skepticism as to the timing of the overt message.

You’re right Poland and Germany are taking it seriously, the former has further some time. A headline on its own that convinces people the threat is real but if there’s no serious uplift in spend it’s kind of worse.

A headline that assures the money is there would have a different impact with lower alarm, but money still could be being fought for departmentally.

SomeoneIsWrongOnTheInternet · 26/10/2026 09:10

We know what the threats are - ?

SomeoneIsWrongOnTheInternet · 26/10/2026 09:25

Germany came very close to triggering NATO’s article 5 not long ago. Putin has an asset in the White House and must be laughing his head off at the stupidity and greed of western governments inviting him in for years of neoliberal globalism, enabling him to help spread corruption, decadence and collapsing structures everywhere.

We are already in cyber war.

Newbutoldfather · 26/10/2026 09:36

Whilst being defensively prepared is a prerequisite for any sovereignty nation, the idea of Putin invading seems risible to me. Do people not remember the ‘awe inspiring’ armour Putin had on the road to Kyiv, until they realised it was a traffic jam of broken down vehicles, and the supply line was non existent?

The idea that they could invade Poland or Germany across all of a still hostile Ukraine is crazy.

Yes, Russia could fire missiles and drones at the UK, although the drones would never make it without being shot down en route. And, of course, it could wage cyber war and (maybe) cut some undersea cables, although submarine warfare is something the UK actually is very adept at.

Ultimately, though, what would Putin’s war aim be? He is cruel and calculating, but not completely mad. Currently, Russia still sells a surprising amount of oil and other commodities to Europe, tens of billions of euros worth.

The only way Putin could win is with U.S backing and, although Trump is unpredictable, I don’t see the U.S helping Russia in a hot war against Europe. At worst, they would stay out, although I suspect they would end up honouring their NATO commitments.

HelenaWaiting · 26/10/2026 09:50

EasternStandard · 26/10/2026 07:36

Streetjng’s headline will alarm some, it’s probably the point of phrasing it that way.

The point is, it isn't Streeting's headline. It's the OP's bad faith paraphrasing of his statement.

SomeoneIsWrongOnTheInternet · 26/10/2026 10:02

The only way Putin could win is with U.S backing and, although Trump is unpredictable, I don’t see the U.S helping Russia in a hot war against Europe. At worst, they would stay out, although I suspect they would end up honouring their NATO commitments.

I bloody hope you are right. Trump has declared he wants to seize Greenland and make Canada one of the US states, though, so I’m not optimistic. He’s threatening press freedom in the US. Honestly unless he gets chucked out at the midterms I think our best hope is the American people managing to rebel or at least engage in collective civil disobedience, if Trump does order invasion or military threats against any western-allied country. We don’t yet know how he will react to a midterm setback.

Newbutoldfather · 26/10/2026 10:08

@SomeoneIsWrongOnTheInternet ,

‘We don’t yet know how he will react to a midterm setback.’

I think we do! He will have three aircraft carrier attack groups in the Middle East and Israel on side. He will still have autonomy until January, and I suspect he will use it brutally in Iran.

He would want to go out with a bang (literally as well as metaphorically!).