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Child responsibilities.. Should dinner be made or even started when the first parent gets home from work?

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Playinwithfire · Yesterday 08:21

Last night I get home, it was around 7.30 and my youngest said mummy I'm hungry. I was confused DH had been home since 2pm and sorted HIS stuff and then he headed off to his hobby. I checked to see if they had enough dinner, then the child says we didn't get any dinner! I'm furious...

There has been a few changes and I have been very understanding that DH is trying to adjust. However, for f"*k sake... I feel like I need to still manage everything and ensure things get done. I'm asked a 100 questions daily. An I snapped last night...

I just don't get how you can go off to a hobby knowing that your children still haven't eaten however, you've made sure all the stuff he had to do was priority and very much completed.

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Scarcityvarcity · Yesterday 17:24

mrsm43s · Yesterday 17:22

It is perfectly reasonable to ask a 15 year old to make a simple dinner for themselves and their siblings and expect them to not wilfully disobey you.

Reasonable to ask as a favour but not reasonable to tell. It's not the siblings job

minipie · Yesterday 17:24

Clearly your H realised at 7 he’d cocked up and forgotten to make dinner. What he should have done is make something quickly and been late to his hobby. What he actually did is try to palm it off onto 15 yo.

Unimpressive

Seajaye · Yesterday 17:28

Iloveshihtzus · Yesterday 10:16

Why? Maybe in the 1950s when the wife was at home as a housewife but when we as wives and mothers are now expected to fund at least 50% of the finances by working full time, why do the husbands still get to act like it’s the 1950s?

oh yes - because other women won’t support us in our quest to get men to step the fuck up.

Surely It's nothing to do with 1950s sexism, it more about communicating expectations better , and more joint effort on division of household labour.

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 17:30

mrsm43s · Yesterday 17:12

Ok, or make beans/cheese on toast, or bung some chicken nuggets and chips etc in the air fryer or make a toastie or an omelette. Whatever! A simple tea is not hard to pull together.

How come it was so hard for the father then? Who had been in the house for FIVE HOURS?

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 17:33

mrsm43s · Yesterday 17:17

Your teen misbehaved and disobeyed your husband and you are letting him off. This is undermining your husband. Teen has learnt that he can disobey Dad and Mum sticks up for him (and has a go at Dad).

Your DH's actions weren't ideal. He shouldn't have left until he'd seen your 15 year old make or at least start to make the dinner. But there is nothing wrong in a Dad asking a 15 yo to make dinner once in a while, for whatever reason. There is something wrong with a 15 year old ignoring/disobeying the request.

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Hi dad. What's your hobby that is so important you neglected your whole family?

U53rName · Yesterday 17:34

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 17:33

Hi dad. What's your hobby that is so important you neglected your whole family?

He won’t tell you—it might be “too outing”.

BakeOffChamp · Yesterday 17:34

Playinwithfire · Yesterday 08:21

Last night I get home, it was around 7.30 and my youngest said mummy I'm hungry. I was confused DH had been home since 2pm and sorted HIS stuff and then he headed off to his hobby. I checked to see if they had enough dinner, then the child says we didn't get any dinner! I'm furious...

There has been a few changes and I have been very understanding that DH is trying to adjust. However, for f"*k sake... I feel like I need to still manage everything and ensure things get done. I'm asked a 100 questions daily. An I snapped last night...

I just don't get how you can go off to a hobby knowing that your children still haven't eaten however, you've made sure all the stuff he had to do was priority and very much completed.

He sounds like an idiot, but that's men for you and yes I KNOW NAMALT!

Most men think the default for cooking is down to wifey along with washing and cleaning and cooking. My ex was like this, and also had weaponised incompetence - like putting a fruit teabag in a cup with boiling water that was still in it's paper envelope. W-T-F

My current lovely man, cleans up without asking and does washing - even timing it to go on in the morning so he can put it in the dryer when he gets up early for work. His cooking is not as good as me but he has a go and I never would complain.

I can only send hugs to you

Differentforgirls · Yesterday 17:37

U53rName · Yesterday 17:34

He won’t tell you—it might be “too outing”.

😂😂

BakeOffChamp · Yesterday 17:42

Playinwithfire · Yesterday 14:07

@mrsm43s My 15 year was not be disobedient! He too had things to do. Therefore it falls to H to do his duty, simple as. Passing off H responsibility to the 15 year old because he thought his hobby was more important is not ok! You try and dictate it any way you like DH was at fault not the 15 year old.

Lots of women on here would rather blame a 15 yr old than their husbands

RumbleMum · Yesterday 17:42

TrappedByThisDesk · Yesterday 09:23

Perfectly acceptable to expect a 15 year old to feed themselves if both parents are busy.
Not acceptable to delegate parenting the younger two to the 15 year old and expect them to be responsible for deciding what to cook for their siblings.

This. This is the kind of thing that makes kids (not unreasonably IMO) resentful. It's fine for 15 year olds to feed themselves. It's also fine for them to be asked to feed the others if it's occasional and agreed in advance in a '15-year-old, could you help out and make dinner for your siblings' kind of way. But to assume by default the oldest one should be in charge when there's a parent actually around is crap parenting.

WimpoleHat · Yesterday 17:47

Honestly - I think it depends whether this was a one off stuff up or whether he does things like this (or prioritising himself and his hobbies over the kids) on a regular basis. My 15 year old is perfectly able to knock up some pasta or something for the family and would do so willingly if asked; however, I don’t think it should be the norm that a child of that age is cooking the family dinner, especially not when a parent has been around and could have done it.

As a one off? I’d brush it off as one of those things and lightly take the rip the following week. As a pattern? Yes, I’d be furious as well.

67789d · Yesterday 17:55

U53rName · Yesterday 17:34

He won’t tell you—it might be “too outing”.

I would take a guess it's not a cooking class

VioletsTale · Yesterday 18:02

mrsm43s · Yesterday 17:22

It is perfectly reasonable to ask a 15 year old to make a simple dinner for themselves and their siblings and expect them to not wilfully disobey you.

The grown ass man didn’t even think to feed his kids by 7 o’clock. He sorted himself out though. The issue is not the 15 yo. FFS. You don’t get your kids to pick up your lazy, useless slack.

ginasevern · Yesterday 18:04

@BakeOffChamp "Lots of women on here would rather blame a 15 yr old than their husbands"

Certainly seems to be the case. At the barest minimum the husband had a duty to ensure the 8 year old was fed.

Blondeshavemorefun · Yesterday 18:08

Asking a 15yr at 7pm to feed an 8yr who will be going to bed soon is madness

your dh is lazy to have not cooked tea for least the youngest , let alone all of you

holidayhelpneeded1 · Yesterday 18:27

Playinwithfire · Yesterday 17:00

ALOT of "what ifs" for dad there! But zero compassion for a child...

@mrsm43s "... undermining your co-parent in front of them." Where did this come out of?

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I know a few have asked and I cant see its been answered but what was he doing for 5 hours that meant he didnt even consider making food for the kids and then told his 15 year old to do it on his way out?

Did the 8 year old at any point ask his dad for food or did he wait for you as he sees you as default parent?

HouseBee · Yesterday 18:32

holidayhelpneeded1 · Yesterday 18:27

I know a few have asked and I cant see its been answered but what was he doing for 5 hours that meant he didnt even consider making food for the kids and then told his 15 year old to do it on his way out?

Did the 8 year old at any point ask his dad for food or did he wait for you as he sees you as default parent?

I have to say I’m more Wonderimg if the dh had prepared anything further himself before leaving tbh.

7.00pm, Gping out for his hobby for probably a couple of hours. I imagine he had eaten before hand.
in which case, why in earth did he not prepare something for the kids too??

fwiw I dint think ANY parent would wait until child say there angry befire thinking about preparing some food

EppingIsFun · Yesterday 18:34

I have a 15yo. He's perfectly capable of cooking, and cooks for himself regularly. But that isn't the point. There's no way I would expect him to be responsible for his and his younger siblings' dinner when I'd been in the house all afternoon! I sometimes ask him to stick the oven on / bung something in the oven if he's home before me and my husband, but that's as far as it goes. Your DH is taking the piss. Awful parenting.

holidayhelpneeded1 · Yesterday 18:37

HouseBee · Yesterday 18:32

I have to say I’m more Wonderimg if the dh had prepared anything further himself before leaving tbh.

7.00pm, Gping out for his hobby for probably a couple of hours. I imagine he had eaten before hand.
in which case, why in earth did he not prepare something for the kids too??

fwiw I dint think ANY parent would wait until child say there angry befire thinking about preparing some food

Would be interested in that too. No way he ate nothing between 2pm and 7pm when going out for a while.

You dont want to fill in the gaps but he does sound a bit selfish and useless from whats been said so far. But of course so many would rather blame a 15 year old than expect a man to possibly parent!

possiblynot1 · Yesterday 18:37

I can't believe anyone believes a 15 year old who gets in almost 3 hours later than their parent, should then cook dinner for the family so the dad can relax before going off to do their chosen hobby.

Cook for himself because he wants something different, or earlier to the family, yes. Prepare a meal for the family because the dad can't be bothered to be a parent, no.

Namechangewegovyjune26 · Yesterday 18:41

No it is not the 15 year old’s job to feed younger siblings when the parent has been home between 2pm and 7pm!!!

Your DH is a selfish twat and I would say I do not agree to provide the childcare for his hobby until he sorts himself out.

Namechangewegovyjune26 · Yesterday 18:42

possiblynot1 · Yesterday 18:37

I can't believe anyone believes a 15 year old who gets in almost 3 hours later than their parent, should then cook dinner for the family so the dad can relax before going off to do their chosen hobby.

Cook for himself because he wants something different, or earlier to the family, yes. Prepare a meal for the family because the dad can't be bothered to be a parent, no.

Right? Some right weirdoes on this thread.

holidayhelpneeded1 · Yesterday 19:09

possiblynot1 · Yesterday 18:37

I can't believe anyone believes a 15 year old who gets in almost 3 hours later than their parent, should then cook dinner for the family so the dad can relax before going off to do their chosen hobby.

Cook for himself because he wants something different, or earlier to the family, yes. Prepare a meal for the family because the dad can't be bothered to be a parent, no.

A 15 year old who probably also had homework and plenty to get on with.

There are people arguing how its quick to do an easy dinner, but fail to explain why if its so easy why this guy couldn't manage it in the 5 bloody hours he had! But this is Mumsnet where standards for men is rock bottom. Genuinely bat shit that a parent can be this useless and people can still excuse it because heaven forbid you have a penis and are expected to also use your brain!

arethereanyleftatall · Yesterday 19:23

I find it very strange that the op hasn’t actually detailed whatsoever what the husband was doing in those 5 hours. It’s surely entirely relevant. She’s been back several times, and could have clarified that he was indeed doing nothing and thus yes, in that case, the 8 year olds dinner was on him.

(Although I must confess, whilst I’m ordinarily a really good parent who goes way above and beyond for my dc on the daily, there are absolutely occasions when I’ve said to my dc ‘I absolutely cba cooking tonight. I’m spent. Could you bung a pizza in the oven for me and sort yourselves out’ Easily from when they’re old enough to bung a pizza in.)

so it’s entirely possible that he was working the whole time, and didn’t eat himself, in which case, it is completely reasonable parenting to delegate the cooking to the 15yo, albeit a bit late.

it is also perfectly possible that the man is a complete selfish arsehole, as I said in my first post, but given the omission of the 15 year olds age in the op, and the omission of what he was doing for the 5 hours, because then the responses will go in the ops favour as we’ve seen with most posters assuming he was doing nothing and the 15 year old was diligently doing their homework (both points at this stage assumptions) - there could well be a different side of this story.

also, I have to disagree with the general point that ‘it’s a parents job to make dinner’. I would say it’s a parents job to turn their children in to decent adults, and that will absolutely include age appropriate chores such as a 15 year old making dinner.

and before anyone comes at me to say ‘it’s not if the parent is doing nothing’ please bear in mind that whilst he might have been, the op hasn’t actually clarified what he was doing.

TheEagerDuck · Yesterday 20:11

I would have snapped too. Not only was hubby home before you, he had 5.5hrs to do what he needed and still left you & child to sort yourselves out. You both deserve better. At the very least, he should have fed your child and had a bath ready for you at that time in the eve even if he said sort your own food or get yourself a take away if he and the child had to eat earlier