To think Meghan Markle isn’t the problem, it’s Harry?

[WryJadeWren]

I don’t understand why Meghan is so often treated as the driving force behind everything people dislike about them, while Harry is portrayed as some helpless man who’s been led astray.

He’s a grown man with his own opinions and the ability to make his own decisions. It’s his family and presumably he has far more history with them than she does. Why is the assumption that she’s manipulated him, rather than that he has his own grievances and is doing what he wants?

You don’t have to like Meghan to recognise that Harry is responsible for his own behaviour. I actually find him more irritating, particularly the impression he gives that everyone else is responsible for his unhappiness.

AIBU to think she gets a disproportionate amount of the blame, while he gets far too much benefit of the doubt?

Are you always so patronising? Like in real life etc?

I'm enjoying how everyone is pretending it's not completely bizarre, archaic and cold to insist on family members curtseying to each other dependent on rank. Oh yeh, that's definitely not an absolutely absurd bit of nonsense and Meghan is the first person in the world to have taken the piss out of it.

I agree. Harry needed his family and their PR to present him in a good light. Meghan persuaded him to turn his back on all that and told him he was getting a raw deal and they could be much more successful and make more money outside the constraits of royal life. Without her egging him on he would never have left and wouldn't be in the awful position he's in now imho.

Gosh, you sound like an awful person, just because people have a different viewpoint to you they are rendered stupid? Do you know that people are allowed to have different opinions?

I think people that believe the drivel posted above, and refer to people who don't as newborn lambs, deserve everything they get.

That didn't answer my question. Do you think that people who have a different opinion to you are really stupid? Should everyone on this planet agree with you?

It was both Harry’s and William’s, re: foreskin or the lack thereof.

I have answered your question. If you don't understand my answer, perhaps ask your grown up to help.

I hope it works out for them long term, I really do. But a large part of me sees Meghan returning to live the US alone at some point. Hope I'm wrong.

I suspect part of the appeal of Meghan for Harry is that she allows him to indulge in his grievances. Some people might hear about, for example, difficult parts of his relationships with his family and say, “I’m really sorry you went through that, Harry. It’s always hard when family doesn’t help us in the way we need them to. I’m sure that despite their flaws, they all love you very much.”

Meghan, though, is the type who would say something like, “Oh my God, that’s emotional neglect/emotional abuse/some other pathological behavior – you know, you’re not obligated to keep them in your life.” Which might sound very attractive to someone in Harry’s position because so much of his life was pre-determined for him. But on the end, you’ve only got one family of origin and everyone in it has only got one life, and in some cases, it’s better to accept the past and work towards a better future rather than airing your grievances over and over again.

And that’s the problem he’s not a celebrity he’s a member of the Royal family ! She was the celebrity. His recent interview shows he still doesn’t take any accountability for his behaviour and blames the RF. with that attitude reconciliation will never happen with William

Harry’s an adult and is allowed to live the life he chooses . I hate the way the Uk press try to stir up hate against them . Yes he wrote a book criticizing the royal family but people forget so did Charles who criticized his upbringing and wanted to Queen to hand over the crown to him ! Let the hate stop! William will be head of the church in time , isn’t he supposed to be forgiving ? Let’s hope they reconcile . I wonder if any of the royals have met his children , it seems bizarre if not. People are realizing that Harry has also been treated badly and losing respect for the monarchy .

100% THIS

They are both the problem and I wish they would go back to US or away somewhere else.

Jesus 🙄

He stirred up hate for HIMSELF when he gave that despicable interview for Oprah where he allowed his wife to spout countless lies!!!!!!!!

Delusional and not very bright

She showed us who she really is on countless occasions with the many lies she has spouted

Exactly this

MM showed us she was the bad guy in that OW interview. Before that I had every sympathy for her. Not now. At all. She's a lying narcissistic shallow greedy manipulator who lacks basic integrity and drops people the minute they are no longer of use to her. Vile

Nah. She's fame and money hungry. She wouldn't have run. On the contrary she wanted to marry quickly before he changed his mind

Making your own family curtsy to you behind closed doors should be mocked. Ridiculous people!

How does it affect your life in any way where they live?

I wonder what would have happened if they had met 10-15 years earlier and had a longer relationship before getting married and Meghan officially joining the family.
William and Catherine were able to take their time, she was able to rise above the negative press she received early on in their relationship and she had a slow introduction into royal life to truly understand what her future would be like.
By meeting later in life, Meghan missed out on that (though I believe Sophie offered her a lot of support / mentoring which was refused).