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AIBU to feel disappointed that my daughter has chosen a less prestigious college and a more practical degree?

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Idealist3 · Yesterday 20:44

My daughter is doing a degree in Business with Spanish and Italian, and she is very happy with her choice of college and course.

She had enough points to get into a more prestigious college and could have studied subjects such as humanities, communications or journalism. However, she was quite determined to do this particular course because she wanted something more practical and less theoretical. She also liked the industry links and the fact that there is a mandatory year abroad in Spain.

I completely understand her reasoning, and I have always wanted my children to make their own decisions about their lives. I don't want to be the kind of parent who tries to dictate what they should study or what career they should pursue.

However, if I'm honest, I feel disappointed, and I feel guilty about feeling that way.

My own degree was in Literature and Sociology at a good college, and I suppose I had hoped she might follow a more academic route. I value the intellectual side of a university education and had imagined her studying something along those lines at a more prestigious institution. I think I had an idea in my head of the sort of university experience I would have liked her to have.

Part of me worries that, given her academic ability, she could have challenged herself more and that she might be missing out on a richer university experience. I also wonder whether a degree from a more prestigious college might have opened up different opportunities for her in the future.

At the same time, I realise that she has thought about what she wants and has chosen a course that genuinely appeals to her. She isn't disappointed with her choice or wishing she had done something else. In fact, she's happy, which is what I should want for her.

I know that practical degrees can lead to good careers, and I can see the advantages of learning languages, spending a year abroad and having industry connections. I'm not suggesting that her course is a bad one, and I certainly don't want her to feel that I'm unhappy with her decision.

I think what I'm struggling with is that she has had the academic ability to pursue a different route but has actively chosen not to. Perhaps I had hoped she would value some of the things I valued about university.

I have always believed that my children should make their own choices, and I know it would be unfair to expect her to follow the path I took or to choose a degree based on prestige alone.

So, AIBU to feel disappointed, even though I respect her decision and am glad she's happy? Am I being too hung up on academic prestige and the kind of education I personally value? Or is it understandable to feel that she could have made more of her academic potential, even if she sees things differently?

I don't want to project my own expectations onto her, but I can't quite shake the feeling that I wish she'd chosen differently. I feel bad about that because, ultimately, it's her life and her decision.

I'd appreciate some honest perspectives, particularly from people whose children have chosen a different path from the one they might have hoped for them. How do you let go of your own expectations and feel genuinely happy for your child when their choices aren't quite what you imagined?

OP posts:
MaidOfSteel · Yesterday 22:26

You have a snobby attitude, OP. Your daughter sounds very sensible!

stupididiot12345 · Yesterday 22:26

Cocolapew · Yesterday 20:51

Tbh you just sound like a snob.

100% agree with this. I can be a snob at times, but your daughter is doing a degree which she feels is best suited to her. Be proud, prestigious universities aren’t the be all and end all. In fact, it’s all a load of pretentious shite

EveryoneUsingOutro · Yesterday 22:26

alexisccd · Yesterday 21:25

Sociology is not prestigious

It was seen as an “easy” almost “fake” degree in my day. Definitely NOT very prestigious!

Lolamorte · Yesterday 22:27

I’m a languages teacher and she sounds like she’s made excellent choices. In the 20 years since graduating from an excellent if rather old-fashioned and stuffy department in a Russell group university, I’ve discussed experiences with my old undergrad colleagues. We all conclude that straight languages are great for expanding the skills, but don’t add much guidance in how to use said skills. An additional subject with application, such as accountancy, law or business is vey advisable!

Unless she wants to teach, of course! Fantastic career if you love kids and education, but not for everyone, as attrition rates demonstrate.

BugJuice · Yesterday 22:28

EveryoneUsingOutro · Yesterday 22:26

It was seen as an “easy” almost “fake” degree in my day. Definitely NOT very prestigious!

Sociology was the course that all my friends who failed first year switched to.

idontknowhowtodreamyourdreams · Yesterday 22:33

I don’t under your examples and comparisons. Journalism or communication studies are not traditionally “prestigious” in the way that, say, Maths and Philosophy at Oxford is 😕

Her choice sounds great tbh and the languages and living overseas really open doors and widen perspectives. Good for her.

QueenietheGreat · Yesterday 22:37

@Idealist3
I'd honestly say that it seems she's sat and thought things thoroughly through
And made the best choice she's happy with

RumPidgeon · Yesterday 22:41

I feel your frustration holding a Masters from a good university myself but I think you ought to to be happy for her having put much consideration into her choices. You laid the foundations for a great education and you ought to not worry. She is clearly a thoughtful young woman who is choosing her own way in life. Support her.

gillefc82 · Yesterday 22:43

MeetMeOnTheCorner · Yesterday 22:19

@gillefc82 The latest IFS data shows English grads as having one of the worst returns on their degree costs. In other words, they don’t get much of an earnings premium. Obviously science comes higher and a humanity like geography is just fine. MFLs, if you use them as an academic launchpad, are ok for many jobs but should not be seen as vocational. Business is a good choice and fending for yourself abroad is excellent for the cv.

Journalism and communications are poor choices and too narrow.

I can well believe it. Ultimately, an English Literature degree involves lots of reading, with a focus on teaching how to critically analyse a text and identify/understand the wider themes and concepts sitting behind the simple words on the page.

Whilst I think that’s actually a useful skill to learn, and one that can be put to use in many job roles, I can see it wouldn’t be as overtly valuable when compared with say the skill to gather a huge amount of data, organise and analyse it, and produce clear, actionable business insights, such as would be gained from a degree in a STEM subject.

As I said in my post, if I had my time again I think I would have chosen differently and certainly would have continued with a foreign language. My degree choice has not hampered my career but it definitely hasn’t overtly helped either. I think it probably speaks volumes that I’ve subsequently ended up completing an MBA to ‘round out’ my professional, corporate skill set.

eatreadsleeprepeat · Yesterday 22:44

You give yourself a shake and realise that you get to have hopes for your children not expectations. You are happy that they have got through school healthy, in one piece and have got the grades they need and the maturity to work out what they want. You support their decisions emotionally and practically. You do not voice any disappointment to them. You look forward to visiting her on her year in Spain.

Fortuity · Yesterday 22:45

In your defence, OP, I think there is some value in studying a subject at university just for the love of it, before looking at getting qualifications leading to a career. I did a degree in a subject that led straight to a career, and in some ways I regret not taking the chance to do one in History, which was the subject I really loved.

That said, unfortunately taking that course of action is really a bit of a luxury nowadays. I certainly wouldn't be disappointed if my child were to make the same choices as your daughter has.

Brokentoes85 · Yesterday 22:45

Full house! Shallow, pretentious, pompous, snobby and rude.

Your daughter doesn't have to make life choices based on your outdated and unfounded opinions.

Why do you insist on referring to them as colleges?

Basildon4Eva · Yesterday 22:53

I went to Oxbridge and hated it. It wasn't the universities fault - I chose completely the wrong subject for me and I was too blinded by the prestige of winning a place to realise that. I am now a sahm and have forgotten most of my degree content.

My sibling felt judged for going to a low ranked uni, but has been far far more successful in their career and actually enjoys it.

Tbh I'll be encouraging DC to skip uni and do something practical unless they feel absolutely passionate about a subject, or want to do something vocational such as medicine.

EveryoneUsingOutro · Yesterday 22:54

BugJuice · Yesterday 22:28

Sociology was the course that all my friends who failed first year switched to.

Yes, all the stoners 😄

Citylady88 · Yesterday 23:05

Hi OP, I've been to your type of uni/college & to the one your daughter attends. For a career in business it sounds like she's where she needs to be. The year abroad will also be incredibly informing to her career. She sounds like she knows what she wants & has a clear path to get there. This is so much more than all the people her age doing English at Trinity just because they got the points & their mam thinks it sounds good to have a scholar in the family.

DetectiveDouche · Yesterday 23:07

gravitarse · Yesterday 20:53

"College "?

I was wondering this. I thought we'd maybe gone American and started calling uni "college" without me even noticing! College in the UK is what comes after Y12 before university, no?

Newyearawaits · Yesterday 23:13

YABU OP and projecting your expectations through your daughter. I have worked with similar people who displayed disappointment when their children didn't get top grades
Keep this in perspective OP and celebrate your daughter's achievements.

HeyMoonPie · Yesterday 23:17

I am sorry but all I can hear is Beattie (Maureen Lipman) " ooh it's an 'ology "' The 'ology degrees - really what are they all about? (In my day it was those that couldn't really make up their minds) Business Degree with a large amount of practical work sounds so much better and opens the gateway to all sorts careers.

YourAmberExpert · Yesterday 23:20

Yes

SylvanMoon · Yesterday 23:21

What exactly do you mean by "academic potential"?

LandSsmum · Yesterday 23:23

Kindly you’ve lived your life with your decisions and now she’s making hers. I’m sure your parents haven’t been universally delighted with your life chances but life has carried on. She sounds sensible and smart

WolfRamHeart · Yesterday 23:24

BugJuice · Yesterday 21:20

When did you go to university? I remember sociology being seen as an ‘easy’ subject when I was at university.

Wasn't it referenced in the Maureen Lipman BT advert? "Oohhh you got an ology"

OlderGlaswegianLivingInDevon · Yesterday 23:28

My goodness it's all about you...

But really this is a wind up thread isn't it.

MeetMeOnTheCorner · Yesterday 23:29

@DetectiveDouche No. It doesn’t. Can start in y12 after GCSEs. Can start at 18 after A levels or BTecs. College usually referees to 6th form colleges for post GCSE education or Colleges of Further education which are again post GCSEs or prep for work via apprenticeship training and qualifications for employment. So no, not necessarily after y12 at all. Very few go for y13.

eggandonion · Yesterday 23:31

Op is referring to Irish colleges...Trinity College in Dublin and the constituent colleges of the National University of Ireland. Other universities are available.

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