"Nearly all women who try to reach UK in small boats are raped during their journey, Home Secretary says"

[supernaturalmilkshake]

Well, this is absolutely sickening and terrifying. Those poor women and poor women and girls in the UK who will no doubt end up suffering too. Women's rights and safety seems to be the last thing that matters these days.

www.dailymail.com/news/article-16183281/Nearly-women-try-reach-UK-small-boats-raped-journey-home-secretary-says.html

If we ignore the fact the rest of PP’s post, and focus just on the frat house part..

Surely we should stop American men from entering the country too, because they evidently all have terrible attitudes towards women.

They must have, if that group from Cornell did. It has to be universal, right?

I suspect 99.9% of the half a billion weekly Reddit users have never even heard of Mumsnet before never mind been banned from it 🤣

I’m ok with visas and vetting. There’s a lot more control over entry if that is applied to all entry.

Yes they did, mostly to Commonwealth countries - look up CORB. The king himself was offered passage to Canada, but refused.

DebbieSavage
Are you always this naive?
Quite apart from what the BBC says.
What is your honest opinion on the murder of Rhiannon Whyte? How would you feel if she was your daughter or sister?
I think murdering another human being (lone female) is as dehumanising and disgusting as you can get.
If you can't agree with that then......... I truly hope that you or any of your loved ones ever have to deal with such circumstances.

There is no vetting check that covers attitudes towards women. I’m not sure how you could make that procedurally possible.

It’s far too ambiguous to be covered by a legal check, that is checking for known criminality etc.

I know some argue that you could assume that a certain country of origin would imply a negative attitude to women, but then as I’ve just said, would that now have to include Americans? Or the French?

The asylum system can’t check or verify. Visas can ask for police certificates before entry. The Australian system is far more secure as it offers humanitarian visas to people it has checked first.

If we’re going to offer say 20 to 30k places of refuge a year it makes sense to ensure they go to vetted, checked and the more vulnerable. Australia has a humanitarian visa specifically for lone females.

The you suspect wrong. There's a section to bitch about MN, ironicly calling themselves troll hunters.

That is incorrect- under 18s become the responsibility of the local authority as they are under 18 with no parents or guardians so become looked after children - that’s the law!

I suspect right. 8.3k weekly visitors (173 posts a week) to the MN troll hunting subreddit / 515 million weekly visitors to Reddit = 0.00161%. Tiny.

I visited the (pretty boring so didn't go back) subreddit a couple of times and from what I could see they were essentially troll hunting threads which can't be discussed on here 🤷‍♀️

I'm not really interested in a breakdown. I know they exist - insignificant weirdos.

we're all telling you its not a zero sum game, but you dont like that answer, would be my guess.

Massive shame Brexit- which Farage et al were all behind, removed our ability to vet those arriving in the Uk.

not often talked about but the loss of Schengen access has meant we can no longer check many non-uk criminal records.

Take a look at Germany or any other country and see the migration issues they face.

They too have seen many undocumented migrants and crimes where vetting did not occur. Plus the ability to return to first country of entry is very low.

They didn’t vet them then either.

Brexit didn’t change the fact as a country we let people abuse the system.

At least you lot have stopped pretending this is about protecting women. Just the white ones eh?

What do you mean “you lot”? This is in AIBU. Did the poster say it was about protecting women? There’s another thread in FWR. Did you think you were on that one?

Nobody needs to pretend anything. Women's safety prioritises sensitivities over language. You can keep insinuating all you want, you're not going to stop women worrying for themselves and their daughters.

Get real, the USA and France and other countries in the developed world have a whole load of legislation and cultural norms to safeguard women's rights. It's a long way from perfect but it's so much better for equality between men and women than the setup in places like Afghanistan, Sudan, Eritrea etc.

And she’s still enabling the boats 😖 she’s absolutely useless

As I thought, there is no plan and no answer to this problem that’s unfolding right before our eyes.

The poster was literally blaming black women for being raped.

I think it was perfectly obvious that it was directed at a racist victim blaming poster, as so many are on these type of threads.

The poster didn’t say anything about “protecting women” did they? I think it’s perfectly obvious what you thought.

Interesting you're here to defend the racist victim blaming post @Ereshkigalangcleg, aren't you fancying yourself as a feminist?