"Nearly all women who try to reach UK in small boats are raped during their journey, Home Secretary says"

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Well, this is absolutely sickening and terrifying. Those poor women and poor women and girls in the UK who will no doubt end up suffering too. Women's rights and safety seems to be the last thing that matters these days.

www.dailymail.com/news/article-16183281/Nearly-women-try-reach-UK-small-boats-raped-journey-home-secretary-says.html

Not if they apply for visas and meet the conditions. Surely we should be concentrating on ensuring that young people who have grown up here get whatever limited opportunities there are for work. We really don't need thousands of unknown men.

Coming here seeking asylum is neither a crime nor illegal.

get your facts right.

There absolutely nothing you can say that will convince me that men arriving here from Muslim countries respect British women and see them as equal. We all know how women in their home countries are treated, not allowed to leave the house without their husband, denied education, forced to marry at an extremely young age that wouldn’t be legal here etc. The way they treat women is appalling and I don’t care what you think of me for not wanting these men here with their backwards views.

Oh ffs.

you really think if your government is trying to kill you they’ll authorise a fucking visa and wave you goodbye at the airport?

The whole point of an asylum claim is these people’s lives are at risk in their home countries.

like I said what we need to do is speed up the claim process so genuine claims can be processed, and non genuine refused.

Remember when Dunblane happened? One man did a terrible thing and the entire country had their handguns taken away from them.

Why do we not apply the same logic here? One person does something awful, and the whole operation stops. Deploy the military on land. The Navy turning boats away. If you do manage to land here you get NO help, and if you're caught you get shipped off and taken back somewhere else.

That poster has no basis that it’s “more likely” to be the traffickers raping the women. It’s a convenient handwavy myth. Women are vulnerable the whole length of the journey. From traffickers, officials and other migrants. They are then vulnerable when they get to the supposedly safe country. The problem is men.

People mentioning “genuine asylum seekers” are acknowledging that there are non genuine applicants posing as “genuine” along for the ride too.

So what happens when there’s no room left? No houses, no jobs, no chance of a doctors appointment, no local council services? How many more can we take before the country is at critical breaking point? I’ve asked lots of pro immigration supporters this question and never get a straight answer, it’s easy to say there’s plenty of room but at the rate they are entering that room will eventually run out so what’s the plan then?

Yep! I also wish that people would open a history book and read about the conquests. History is repeating itself and we're pretending that everyone is just good and "looking for a better life".

Do you really believe this?
They have to be processed and are here illegally. If not they would buy a plane ticket and use their passport to enter this country.
They pass through many other countries to get here. Safe countries.
Are you not in the least bit worried about the number of men coming into this country illegally, from countries where women are seen as second class citizens and we know nothing about? Not even a bit concerned?
I do not care how long it takes for residency to be granted in the UK.
It does not mean that boat loads of people should just take it upon themselves to arrive illegally
Are you not concerned about the cost to the NHS, dentists and housing costs, all paid for by the tax payer? Are you a tax payer?
As I previously mentioned, women cannot do a Clare's law / Sarah's law request on these men.

Why are nearly all the asylum seekers young males, leaving their wives and children behind? Are the women and children less at risk in the country of origin than these fit able-bodied young men?

It's a million miles away from the refugees of WW2 where women, children and elderly people trudged through the snow with a bundle of rags on their backs and not a single fit young man among them.

The modern day asylum seeker is taking the pxss and I don't want thousands of military aged males coming here from countries where men have much higher status than women.

Last thing I'll say on the subject. If we ever started sinking the boats (a long shot), I can guarantee that the next load of boats will be filled with women and children. That's how little they care.

To be fair, I am looking at America’s fundamental Christianity and their treatment of women and I don’t think that’s much better.

a certain sector is trying to import that here along with other right wing narratives and I don’t want that either.

men in frat houses seeing unconscious women as “free pussy”, with no consequence, making abortion illegal, women should defer to men, talking about not letting them vote, their job is to stay at home and incubate babies. Many states don’t have a minimum legal age for marriage, and marrying an under age girl will nullify a rape charge.

i don’t want that type of religion imported here either. But I’m seeing more and more men chanting “Christ is king” at immigration protest and that concerns me too.

i saw one man suggesting that the “Muslim” problem is so bad that we should be keeping our women and girls inside “for their own safety” hmmm… sounds very much like the very regimes they claim are a danger to women.

so you can’t convince me that a white, Christian society will be any sort of utopia either.

Do you also support no interfering overseas then? No regime change, no supporting foreign wars that create refugees?

It is if they get off the boat and not be processed. This has happened.

I’m not living in America and these people are entering the UK by boat not America so I fail to see the point you are trying to make.

moonraker0
Very well said and I totally agree!

Exactly. The increase in our population over the last 10-20 years, most driven by immigration, is already impacting on our wildlife. We are one of the most nature depleted countries in the world. We ought to take that as a cue to stop allowing more people into our country.

We don't need them for work. We have a million NEETS that we need to get into the workforce. Most of them will be a net drain over their lifespan. And there is evidence that certain nationalities, eg Afghans, are more likely to commit sexual crimes.

People have had enough of this racket.

Unless you’re in the US it’s not really relevant.

I think the rest of the world have had enough exposure to how to run their societies. For decades now they have been shown how we do things in Europe, how we have separated church and state, given people equal rights, created justice systems, political structures and welfare states. They aren't perfect but they exist which is why people are trying to come here.
Information today is global. People across the world have seen how we do things. Their elite are educated in our universities.

If they cant sort their own states out now, this is no longer our problem. We have led by example. If you dont want to follow our example abd improve your own country im sorry about that.
But we now have an important job to do and that is to protect our own societal balance and preserve our own very precious cultural heritage and legacy.

Good luck.

Yep. Instead the victims and their families are ostracised by Labour / left politicians and half the media.

So if Chrisian fundamentalists with misogynistic views were coming to our shores on small boats, you'd be in favour of keeping them out?

I would too. I don't want us to accept boatloads of young males with misogynistic views who will only serve to make life worse for us in the UK. I think we can agree on that.

Yes. No to supporting foreign wars. No to refugees. The system is being gamed. The most recent thing is a UK charity for gay Bangladeshis charging thousands of pounds to provide a package of 'evidence' that heterosexual asylum seekers are gay in order to be granted asylum. It's called 'Gay to Stay'. Like pretending to be Christian, 'Pray to Stay'.

The whole thing is a complete racket, great for big companies like Serco and Mears but a disaster for our country.

Some asylum seekers have been lying about being gay.
Here are some articles from bbc about it. They did an undercover investigation:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c937wldkkw8o
There were some arrests recently:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cmp3gnd1e4gyo

How do you account for the mass sexual assaults by mainly north African men in Cologne and other German cities several years ago? Oddly enough, this is a common occurence in their homeland. Could it be that they have brought their customs and attitudes with them????

From a Google search just now:
Mass Sexual Assault in Egypt (Taharrush)

• Definition and Pattern: Taharrush involves groups of men surrounding a victim in a crowd—often divided into an inner circle that commits the assault and a larger outer ring that blocks intervention or view. Victims are typically groped, stripped, and subjected to

Yeah lol, the BBC, who are constantly trying to make the public fear & despise immigrants. No thanks, I won't be clicking on that link.

But let me ask you, how do you know specifically if a person is gay or not? Unless you can look into their mind somehow there is no way of truly knowing. So saying people are lying is incredibly disgusting and dehumanising and honestly, pretty homophobic too as well.