To ask if you watched Andy Burnham’s bloody good speech?

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As in actually watched it and didn’t just doom scroll the commentary? It was bold and honest and pragmatic and actually made me hopeful that we have someone at the helm with a vision for a better tomorrow who has Britain’s best interests at heart.

The National Care Service is a masterstroke, paid for out of scrapping the triple lock and the very real savings of reducing NHS bills on A&E and hospital beds for elderly who should be in care but have nowhere to go.

Scrapping right to buy and increasing council control of housing, boosting the technical education track for young people, pushing renewables, nuclear and energy sovereignty, public control of key utilities for water to get bills down and reduce pollution, investing in people & getting them back to work, leasehold reform by Christmas and everyone’s energy bill will be reduced by fast tracking decoupling energy prices from global gas pricing and by having no VAT on energy bills by TOMORROW!

You can watch the whole thing here and be directly informed instead of getting your perspective filtered through all the bots and misinformation peddlers online m.youtube.com/watch?v=jyjTT_55Gi0

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Of course, Burnham loves a big debate…but rarely reveals where his sits on it.

We could have given Kier Starmer a chance, but Burnham stabbed him in the back and grabbed power. WTF should we give him a chance?!

Its hard to see how there wouldn't be a left coalition. History is of little relevance, given this is the first time we've had a three party race.
The alternatives to the left coalition don't look likely.
No one but the Tories would work with Reform. So we have:
Tories plus Reform against all other parties which wouldn't be enough for a majority.
Tories plus Libdem, not enough either. Plus Ed Davey seems pretty taken with Burnham.
Things can change in 3 years, but Reform seem to be (inexplicably) retaining support, while the Tories (understandably) aren't increasing in popularity so I see no sign of it.

I can't suffer him. He'll do nothing for poor people. Hes a greasy social climber like Starmer was. He can fuck the fuck off with his 14k a month

Where Burnham sits on it tends to depend on where his particular audience sits on it. He can be pro something in the morning, anti in the afternoon and indifferent by the evening. He’s all things to all people.

‘‘A Labour government exists to steer cash to its own people until the economic waters close over it’’

Starmer stabbed Corbyn in the back. What goes around comes around. Starmer was fucking useless to boot

I just said on another thread that I agree that Starmer wasn’t given a proper chance. I didn’t like him either but I think what happened to him wasn’t right either. His track record showed he had implemented two thirds of his election promises in just over two years. But Starmer wasn’t enough of a ‘character’ and we don’t like that, so he had to go.

10 pm’s in just as many years, it’s unstable and downright embarrassing. We have to give one a chance.

I avoid bringing up Corbyn on these boards, it never goes well.

He deserved to go. He was useless.

Yep, a human weathervane.

I think his entire speech was simply an attempt to keep the left of the party on side, whilst drawing the battle lines with Reform. No more, no less.

And a Tory government exists to steer cash into its mates pockets, as displayed during Covid.

Well I won't. I don't vote labour but I would rather have had Corbyn as PM than Starmer or Burnham. No fucks given tbh.

Starmer was chosen by the Labour members and then won a landslide general election.

Starmer wasn’t given a proper chance?

He stumbled from screw up to screw up, u turn to u turn. He was the PM who never was.

So you don’t think delivering two thirds of his manifesto in half the time was a pretty decent job? As I said, I don’t Iike him, but I think that deserves to be recognised. And I disagree that we should be pushing people out of the door at the rate we are, it’s part of the reason we are in this mess.

He just waffled about what he wants to do without any plan as to where the money is coming from. Not all pensioners are rich you know, do you really think that just over £12000 is enough to live on? Start by stopping the disgraceful amounts handed out to all and sundry who don't work.

That lab-lib arrangement collapsed fairly quickly.

Like I say, take your pick as it’s almost inevitable.

What we do know, is that in 2024, most people resoundingly rejected Labour at the ballot but they sneaked in via FPTP due to Farage. It is so ironic.

The public are pissed at that and unless Burnham magically solves the burning bonfire of issues facing the UK then it’s bye bye Andy. That’s assuming he makes it to the start line.

I agree, but no one will ever listen to this way of thinking re.

I think that title should be held by Liz.

Michelle Mone? As in the one subsequently sued by a Conservative Govt?

It’s highly likely given that their 2024 GE victory was a quirk of the FPTP system where all their stars aligned.

I completely agree with you that we need stability and longer term policies, however, only if these policies are feasible to deliver without causing economic collapse.

Or do you think we should've given Truss more time?

He doesn’t mention what’s important . Getting growth going to create jobs and help the economy . Immigration, Prison places , Defence . All labour are doing is taking from people to fund their ideologies which don’t keep the country safe . .