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Would you vote for Labour/Getting rid of Triple Lock at the next general election?

583 replies

mybiggreenfrog · 30/09/2026 10:13

Yes (YABU)
No (YANBU)

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Pineneedlesincarpet · 02/10/2026 18:26

BIossomtoes · 02/10/2026 18:24

I bet you wish you’d never started this now, don’t you?

Hmm..yes, a bit....

AgnesMcDoo · 02/10/2026 18:29

I’m very happy to be returning to Labour now that Andy is PM.

I’ve been politically homeless ever since Corbyn.

Binnyforthewin · 03/10/2026 02:13

Pineneedlesincarpet · 02/10/2026 18:05

Ok well we could go round in circles but clearly it's a personal issue for you so we can leave it there.

Good luck with that! You're in a "sea lioning" battle!

Differentforgirls · 03/10/2026 05:07

Pineneedlesincarpet · 02/10/2026 15:43

If the local authority goes bust and is unable to pay the pensions of its workers the taxpayer steps in.

The LA doesn’t pay my pension.

Differentforgirls · 03/10/2026 05:13

Katypp · 02/10/2026 17:09

Obviously I would rather I got more. But that's not going to happen as employers will not be able to afford to pay (don't forget, the majority of private sector workers are employed by SMEs).
If the public sector was not funded by the taxpayer, I would have no problem, they can pay what they want. But as it is, I think it's fair to question why their pension provision is so massively out of step with that of the the general workforce, when it is being funded by all of us.
There's scrutiny of state pensions, scrutiny of benefits, calls for international aid to be scrapped, reduced funding for public services, yer public sector pensions are never mentioned. That's my issue..

All of us includes the public service workers.

Differentforgirls · 03/10/2026 05:15

Pineneedlesincarpet · 02/10/2026 18:14

Well that wasnt really the original point. You were trying to judge people's worth to society using your own personal example. Whereas of course different people are needed for different things. Anyway its a pointless argument. If I was trying to put out a fire I wouldn't be dialling 999 for a surgeon. A fire(person) would be the most important person then. And thats just an example so please don't carry on with this and include your surgeon in this fire scenario 🙏 I couldnt bear the effort to have to deal with it...

The fire person is a public service worker.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 03/10/2026 06:01

Binnyforthewin · 03/10/2026 02:13

Good luck with that! You're in a "sea lioning" battle!

Edited

I still don't know what sea lioning is!

Pineneedlesincarpet · 03/10/2026 06:02

Differentforgirls · 03/10/2026 05:15

The fire person is a public service worker.

Oh don't you start! The point being made was certain people for certain situations.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 03/10/2026 06:05

Differentforgirls · 03/10/2026 05:07

The LA doesn’t pay my pension.

I don't work in the public sector so the local authority doesn't pay mine either. So that's not a hugely helpful comment unless you tell us who you work for.

Differentforgirls · 03/10/2026 06:18

Pineneedlesincarpet · 03/10/2026 06:05

I don't work in the public sector so the local authority doesn't pay mine either. So that's not a hugely helpful comment unless you tell us who you work for.

I'm retired. From LG.

Katypp · 03/10/2026 07:12

Pineneedlesincarpet · 03/10/2026 06:02

Oh don't you start! The point being made was certain people for certain situations.

I think we are going around in circles now
It's a fact that public sector pensions are either ridicilously unaffordable (if you don't work in the public sector) or richly deserved (if you do work in the public sector) and the two 'sides' will never agree.

Differentforgirls · 03/10/2026 07:29

Katypp · 03/10/2026 07:12

I think we are going around in circles now
It's a fact that public sector pensions are either ridicilously unaffordable (if you don't work in the public sector) or richly deserved (if you do work in the public sector) and the two 'sides' will never agree.

Agree! 🤣

givemesteel · 03/10/2026 07:37

From that I have read, the proposal is a double lock which means pensions will rise by 3.2% not 3.5%. This will save £5billion apparently.

The social care proposal will cost vastly more than this, so where's that money coming from?

Triple lock should be abolished to reduce our huge deficit.

I am actually hoping for a bond market crisis to force the electorate to face a bit of fiscal reality.

BIossomtoes · 03/10/2026 07:41

Pineneedlesincarpet · 03/10/2026 06:01

I still don't know what sea lioning is!

It’s when a person keeps asking faux naive questions so that makes two of you.

Pepperlee · 03/10/2026 07:47

Binnyforthewin · 03/10/2026 02:13

Good luck with that! You're in a "sea lioning" battle!

Edited

Of their own making.

RosaNovella · 03/10/2026 08:10

Katypp · 02/10/2026 12:14

Apologies if you have already said, but I am guessing you work in the public sector?
As they always defend their ridiculous pensions to the hilt when everyone in the private sector can see they are crazy, I can't imagine you are a private sector worker.
We always get the same old arguments trotted out to justify employer contributions being around six times the amount a private employer pays in, and I see you've ticked a couple.
'Pensions are not as good as they used to be' - good. But they are still MILES better than private sector, so be grateful.
And my favourite - why don't you change careers - because I don't want to. I am fundamentally opposed to the vast amounts of tax payers' money that go to handing out mad pensions to public sector workers. Unfortunately those who stand to gain (or are already gaining) can't seem to see how lucky they are.
All I'm waiting for now is the race to the bottom justification.

Oh Im extremely grateful and lucky !
Im not daft
They offered, I signed
No smoke and mirrors

That wasnt the discussion though
You mentioned 95 section swanning around, I simply pointed out that section closed in 2008 and then again in 2015 although the McCloud judgement found it to be discriminatory so ...

Its clear you are very angry about PS pensions
Ok

Pepperlee · 03/10/2026 08:22

Why hasn't the £10 Christmas bonus been mentioned? It's been the same since the 70s and has little relevance today.

2Rebecca · 03/10/2026 08:28

Ok about triple lock going not about voting Labour

Katypp · 03/10/2026 08:30

Pepperlee · 03/10/2026 08:22

Why hasn't the £10 Christmas bonus been mentioned? It's been the same since the 70s and has little relevance today.

That's a really good example of something that should be scrspped. It makes no difference to the recipient but collectively costs the country ££££s

Katypp · 03/10/2026 08:32

RosaNovella · 03/10/2026 08:10

Oh Im extremely grateful and lucky !
Im not daft
They offered, I signed
No smoke and mirrors

That wasnt the discussion though
You mentioned 95 section swanning around, I simply pointed out that section closed in 2008 and then again in 2015 although the McCloud judgement found it to be discriminatory so ...

Its clear you are very angry about PS pensions
Ok

I am actually.
I am angry that just about all government spending is under scrutiny but ps pensions are not

PinkFruitbat · 03/10/2026 08:41

Katypp · 03/10/2026 08:32

I am actually.
I am angry that just about all government spending is under scrutiny but ps pensions are not

Private Sector pensions are about to get slammed as the tax free salary sacrifice scheme gets hit hard.

When people already are not saving enough for retirement it is astonishing they are bringing this in.

Anything, ANYTHING to avoid welfare cuts.

Would you vote for Labour/Getting rid of Triple Lock at the next general election?
Pepperlee · 03/10/2026 08:51

Katypp · 03/10/2026 08:30

That's a really good example of something that should be scrspped. It makes no difference to the recipient but collectively costs the country ££££s

I agree.

Katypp · 03/10/2026 08:58

The problem is, if it were suggested there would be howls of protest.
Oncd you give something, taking it away is always politically difficult. See also free food during school holidays (how did we ever get into that mess?), £10 UC uplift during Covid, help with heating bills etc.

BIossomtoes · 03/10/2026 09:02

Katypp · 03/10/2026 08:30

That's a really good example of something that should be scrspped. It makes no difference to the recipient but collectively costs the country ££££s

In the great scheme of things it costs fuck all. If it went nobody would notice but doubtless opponents of whatever government enacted it would weaponise it just like WFA.

poetryandwine · 03/10/2026 09:04

PinkFruitbat · 03/10/2026 08:41

Private Sector pensions are about to get slammed as the tax free salary sacrifice scheme gets hit hard.

When people already are not saving enough for retirement it is astonishing they are bringing this in.

Anything, ANYTHING to avoid welfare cuts.

Major welfare cuts for young people, compatible with the recommendations of the Milburn Review, are being planned for. The idea is to move YP into training and jobs.

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