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Would you vote for Labour/Getting rid of Triple Lock at the next general election?

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mybiggreenfrog · 30/09/2026 10:13

Yes (YABU)
No (YANBU)

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Pineneedlesincarpet · 30/09/2026 16:04

HandPulledNoodles · 30/09/2026 15:34

Renters’ rights, better sick pay, day-one parental rights, higher minimum wages, breakfast clubs and rail nationalisation all benefit people well beyond union members.

You can think Labour hasn’t gone far enough, but it’s not really true that unions and people with more than 2 children have benefitted.

Renters rights has led to landlords leaving the sector and so there are less properties to rent.

Day one rights has deterred employers from employing people or taking a chance on a young or disabled person.

Higher minimum wage has exacerbated youth unemployment.

Breakfast clubs has infantilised parents. Parents should give their own children breakfast not rely on taxpayers.

British Rail was horrendous. I am expecting the same result. Plus it will cost a fortune.

allthingsinmoderation · 30/09/2026 16:06

randomchap · 30/09/2026 10:16

As long as it's replaced by the social care that's been promised

Institute of fiscal studies and other analysts say it wont cover social care especially residential care.
Its a political strategy/framing to better sell it, a hypothecathed sell linking a pension reduction to social care .
1.It wont cover the costs of social care it may be a small down payment
2 it will need further tax rises.
its a risky political strategy .

GasPanic · 30/09/2026 16:10

Badbadbunny · 30/09/2026 15:28

Funny how Brown claimed the "boom" was due to his policies when in reality it was due to the "loose" lending of the banks which drove the housing boom, which in turn drove the general economic boom. You can't have it both ways!

I liked it yesterday when Burnham was going on about Fatcher.

Conveniently forgetting of course that the primary reason Thatcher got to power was because the Labour government before her busted the country and we ended up at the IMF.

EasternStandard · 30/09/2026 16:10

GasPanic · 30/09/2026 16:10

I liked it yesterday when Burnham was going on about Fatcher.

Conveniently forgetting of course that the primary reason Thatcher got to power was because the Labour government before her busted the country and we ended up at the IMF.

Yes and the winter of discontent.

BIossomtoes · 30/09/2026 16:11

allthingsinmoderation · 30/09/2026 16:06

Institute of fiscal studies and other analysts say it wont cover social care especially residential care.
Its a political strategy/framing to better sell it, a hypothecathed sell linking a pension reduction to social care .
1.It wont cover the costs of social care it may be a small down payment
2 it will need further tax rises.
its a risky political strategy .

It won’t be as risky as Truss.

2dogsandabudgie · 30/09/2026 16:13

TattieSconeEggAndBacon · 30/09/2026 14:36

I am glad they have ditched the Triple Lock and impressed that Andy Burnham actually had the balls to do it. I think all parties would be glad to have it off the books and that they wouldn’t have wanted to be the ones to do it. For me, it’s improved my opinion of Burnham.

He hasn't done it yet. Won't be until 2030 and I very much doubt they will get voted in again.

BIossomtoes · 30/09/2026 16:14

2dogsandabudgie · 30/09/2026 16:13

He hasn't done it yet. Won't be until 2030 and I very much doubt they will get voted in again.

Do you now? Which party do you think will win the next GE?

Boomer55 · 30/09/2026 16:14

mybiggreenfrog · 30/09/2026 10:13

Yes (YABU)
No (YANBU)

No, I wouldn't vote for them, but not because of the triple lock. I just think they’re hopeless. 🤷‍♀️

GiaGia16 · 30/09/2026 16:15

2dogsandabudgie · 30/09/2026 16:13

He hasn't done it yet. Won't be until 2030 and I very much doubt they will get voted in again.

This, it’s all just pie in the sky.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 30/09/2026 16:15

GasPanic · 30/09/2026 16:10

I liked it yesterday when Burnham was going on about Fatcher.

Conveniently forgetting of course that the primary reason Thatcher got to power was because the Labour government before her busted the country and we ended up at the IMF.

And it led to a massive boom for the working class (when they were working class). He's trying to reverse everything she achieved.

poetryandwine · 30/09/2026 16:16

EasternStandard · 30/09/2026 15:43

You’re missing the early 2000s under Labour. It was high then.

I was focused on the recent past. But the House of Commons Library informs me that the later numbers were a bit higher.

TattieSconeEggAndBacon · 30/09/2026 16:16

2dogsandabudgie · 30/09/2026 16:13

He hasn't done it yet. Won't be until 2030 and I very much doubt they will get voted in again.

Well that wasn’t really my point. My point was that he said what I believe every other party leader knows and at least he’s put it on the table which is more than anyone else would have the guts to, especially the Tories.

nearlylovemyusername · 30/09/2026 16:17

BIossomtoes · 30/09/2026 16:11

It won’t be as risky as Truss.

Truss was swiftly removed, so the error was fixed.
Interest rate jumped to 4.8% after Truss, it's about 5.8% now

TheSmallAssassin · 30/09/2026 16:19

Nayone · 30/09/2026 11:35

housing , nhs, driving lessons, pocket money, etc etc etc. i'm sure you know this.

Driving lessons aren't a standard benefit for immigrants.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 30/09/2026 16:19

TattieSconeEggAndBacon · 30/09/2026 16:16

Well that wasn’t really my point. My point was that he said what I believe every other party leader knows and at least he’s put it on the table which is more than anyone else would have the guts to, especially the Tories.

The Tories would never have been able to. Labour would have traduced them as being cruel and nasty to old people.

BIossomtoes · 30/09/2026 16:20

nearlylovemyusername · 30/09/2026 16:17

Truss was swiftly removed, so the error was fixed.
Interest rate jumped to 4.8% after Truss, it's about 5.8% now

You may not have noticed but there are several geopolitical events that didn’t exist in late 2022.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 30/09/2026 16:22

TheSmallAssassin · 30/09/2026 16:19

Driving lessons aren't a standard benefit for immigrants.

Well they should be! Ive seen a recent surge in some horrendous driving by people who clearly don't know the highway code. Undertaking and all sorts.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 30/09/2026 16:23

BIossomtoes · 30/09/2026 16:20

You may not have noticed but there are several geopolitical events that didn’t exist in late 2022.

There's always something going on in the world. The economy should be resilient. Unfortunately Labour have spent too much to allow this.

BIossomtoes · 30/09/2026 16:24

Pineneedlesincarpet · 30/09/2026 16:22

Well they should be! Ive seen a recent surge in some horrendous driving by people who clearly don't know the highway code. Undertaking and all sorts.

A woman pulled out in front of me on a roundabout without looking yesterday. I don’t think she was an immigrant.

Pineneedlesincarpet · 30/09/2026 16:25

BIossomtoes · 30/09/2026 16:24

A woman pulled out in front of me on a roundabout without looking yesterday. I don’t think she was an immigrant.

Just a bit of anecdotal evidence Blossom from us both. Neither can be relied on. But one can be suspicious.

nearlylovemyusername · 30/09/2026 16:28

ByTipsyShark · 30/09/2026 15:44

I love these threads as everyone slates labour and then never says who they’d actually vote for and why.

I'll vote Tory.

The trash like JRM, Jerrick, Cruella, Truss etc left the party so there is a chance of revival of pre-Brexit party which can revive the market and support middle class. And Rishi was at least competent, not ideal but miles ahead of current lot

They don't have a chance of majority in next GE of course, but I'd be very glad with hung parliament where they have to find solutions which work for most people, not just unions and benefits takers

TheSmallAssassin · 30/09/2026 16:28

Pineneedlesincarpet · 30/09/2026 16:25

Just a bit of anecdotal evidence Blossom from us both. Neither can be relied on. But one can be suspicious.

What a ridiculous thing to say.

EasternStandard · 30/09/2026 16:28

Pineneedlesincarpet · 30/09/2026 16:23

There's always something going on in the world. The economy should be resilient. Unfortunately Labour have spent too much to allow this.

The first budget which ignored “fully funded, fully costed” pre GE line didn’t help. And the second.

Let’s see about the third.

DdraigGoch · 30/09/2026 16:29

I wish they'd go further and remove the 2.5% rachet. Make it equivalent to the 1st percentile of pre-tax wages. So it's a little bigger than the New State Pension is now (enough to absorb and abolish the WFA), and future increases are tied to low-income wages rather than becoming a political argument.

A couple of other reforms: I'd tie the Personal Allowance to the same percentile, and merge NI into income tax, to remove a few loopholes (which don't just affect OAPs, there's a loophole if you have more than one job too). That way, people over the state pension age who receive more than the PA from work and pensions will pay the same tax on those incomes that working age people do. This won't affect the poorest pensioners, but it will bring in some money from the richer ones.

Using one's house as collateral for social care is a good idea too.

TattieSconeEggAndBacon · 30/09/2026 16:30

Pineneedlesincarpet · 30/09/2026 16:19

The Tories would never have been able to. Labour would have traduced them as being cruel and nasty to old people.

They had many years of a majority government, they should be able to justify their decisions without worrying about what the opposition say. That sounds like weakness.

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