What would the Left call the Right, if the small boat people were white?

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I'll start by saying, I am very anti open boarders, and I am horrified that so many illegal immigrants are arriving every day. But for me, it has absolutely nothing to do with skin colour, it is more to do with :

ONE) They have no documentation, and we have no idea if they have criminal backgrounds

TWO) They tend to come from cultures where women are not respected

THREE) They often come from places where rape is not a crime

FOUR) They cannot work, and it is costing Millions to house, feed and clothe them

FIVE) We are granting asylum to some people who should never get it - like the Hamas bodyguard we heard of yesterday

Lots of valid reasons I feel, however, for me, it has nothing to do with skin colour. If I had to be locked in a room overnight with a white man from a backward culture, or a black man from the UK, I would choose the latter, every single time.

It isn't colour, it's culture

But I see that people on the Far Left just scream "Racist" to anyone who opposes illegal immigration. What would they scream, if all the small boats were full of white men? And would people still march for England?

That’s right. So we’ll see voters shift towards policies that end it.

It’s taking time as there’s various hurdles but eventually voters will finally get it through.

You are oversimplifying the pushback in order to call your own oversimplified version naive and promote your own invented "scapegoat" theory.

This is both your attempt at manipulation and the outcome of you being manipulated. The attempt at an ominous "what it is they are trying to distract people from" mystery is a common sign off, implying the problem people are talking about is imaginary. It's imaginary to you because you don't want to take the time to understand properly. You have picked a side despite pretending there's no sides.

Oh well, British women will still hold their legitimate concerns. We have moved on from putting the little women back in their boxes. Thankfully we can leave the regressive practices to other cultures. We can also have a say in why we don't want those cultures here. Welcome to 2026.

I haven't picked a side. I recognise that people will have valid concerns - eg. that village recently with no shops etc, but they put 1000 men on the edge of it in a hotel. I recognise that someone like me, who lives in London and wouldn't be able to identify an illegal migrant from anyone else on the streets, will have a different attitude to someone in less diverse parts of the UK. I recognise that people are angry about the COL and, in this climate, they want something or someone to blame. This is human nature. Still, I think that the focus on this 1% of migrants arriving in boats is disproportionate, given the overall situation. It fuels all sorts of confirmation bias, as these threads prove. People see a story in the Telegraph and post this as if it serves as some sort of 'evidence.' But it's obvious that the Telegraph and similar press only print stories for their self-selected readers. Put it this way, the Daily Mail is hardly going to run a story about a the vast majority of migrants who are not a sex offenders. Because that's not news, is it. It's not 'taking a side' to wonder why select issues are weaponised by political parties and the media to incite polarisation in society.

What policies? Do you mean people will vote Reform? Is this what you want to say?

Do you think Reform can 'stop the boats?

That’s your post. I’m saying what I want to say already, it’s a major issue for western countries.

You identify ‘everyone wants to stop the boats’. It’s a bit contradictory with your other posts eg no one cares but no matter. Across various countries voters will push politicians on this. It’s not easy but it’s generally moving in the direction of change. France, Spain, Germany - all to watch in terms of political shifts.

You might want to go and have a word with the green party then. They clearly missed the memo.

Coming from a nation with higher rates of VAWG and less women's rights makes them more likely.

"I recognise that people are angry about the COL and, in this climate, they want something or someone to blame"

There you go again. You have no interest in understanding the actual reasons for the pushback. Instead you assign a motive that soothes you by completely bypassing the actual reasons for the pushback and usefully, for your own superiority, undermines the people that are pushing back.

To you, who is choosing to be polarised with this affectation of moral superiority, there's no issue, only incitement. Your theory cannot explain why this incitement you are so certain of exists at all.

Weirdly, in terms of Reform, I think their support base may be starting to dwindle. Or maybe a certain element of it - ie. my 80 year-old father and his cronies. They've never met a migrant in their comfortable lives in a middle-class area of Northern England, but they see life through GB News etc and that's all they know. So yes, they think the beaches are being stormed by an invasion of rabid migrants and this kind of thing. They believe what their selected media tells them. And they loved Farage, because you know, "man of the people."

But now, after Andy Burnham's speech the other day, they have suddenly switched back to Labour - as if overnight! Why? Well, apparently "Andy is a good Northern lad." And they're arguing about whether he's a 'real Scouser' or a 'real Mancunian' - but anyway, "he talks sense," I am reliably informed. I mean, did they miss the part of AB's speech where he stated Brexit was an unmitigated disaster? They were all raving Brexiteers for years! But now, they don't mention Brexit and just kind of look vacant about that. Yes, now never mind Brexit, Andy is the man of the mo! By the way, I don't vote Labour myself, I travelled up here from London this morning by train and I'm sensing a change is in the air because trust me, if my dad, of all people, can be turned from Reform and its message after all these years, anyone can. And Northern pensioners will be an important section of the Reform vote.

Yep. Reform just lost every election.

We’ll see how long the Burnham love in lasts. It’ll be harder to be an outlier as other EU countries switch to the right. People will be more attracted to the U.K. as other countries become more hardline.

Well just saying, Reform will need the middle-class pensioners of the North. My dad votes for who he can identify with most - a.k.a who he could see himself having a pint with in the pub. AB being northern suddenly seems to make the Dulwich-college, ex stockbroker Farage suddenly look like a bit of a Southern ponce (according to the pub). And the suspicion that he's probably up to his neck in financial corruption is apparently another factor in them turning away.

Not sure about mc pensioners. I’m sure a fair few are Labour anyway.

How about, everyone just calls each other “people”?

He's on borrowed time with edging his way back into the EU. I know it appeases his main voter base but as you note, the European main players are rejecting socialism. He can't keep avoiding the elephant in the room. It's no longer we are in it together.

If you're coming from that angle, that needs to include everybody. Not sure how zionism is evil fits in there. There are "people" behind that ideology, who just want the right to live.

Wgat makes you think that everyone who opposes the Right believes that Zionism is evil? Just because the Green Party membership have voted for such a view- against the wishes of their own MPs (the Green membership seem to be just as batshit as any Party members, as opposed to voters and MPs, usually seem to be)? Most people who dislike Reform are NOT Green voters, and not all are even left-leaning.

What’s that got to do with the small boats issue? What have I written that makes your first response a reference to the Green Party vote? The fact that my grandfather was Jewish?

You could ask yourself the same question - why equate the poster concern regarding the small boats with " a certain Austrian "? Why did you leap to Nazism?

I'm not accusing anyone of Nazism at this point, but it does seem that a few on here are a bit hopeful for a Far Right power shift across Europe. Well, I think you need to be careful what you wish for, especially if you profess to be concerned about women's rights and silencing.

It’s more to counter your claims no one cares etc

It’s not the case, especially considering shifts in many countries. Some are ignoring what’s going on but it’s fairly clear migration issues are not just in the U.K.

I referenced Nazism because my granddad came here as a refugee from Nazi Germany, and what he found in Britain was (largely) the antithesis of that. The anti migrant rhetoric by the (pro Nazi) daily mail in the 1930s was similar to the language used by the OP. Her rhetoric is from a lineage of hate speech dating back before the war, which saw quotas on Jewish refugees and a refusal by this country to take as many as we could. Look up the Evian conference. If every country had taken their share in 1938, then every single German Jew would’ve been saved. As it was, this country realised - far too late - that human life is worth more than squabbling about keeping foreigners out.

Generals always fight the last war…

i think a more pertinent saying is if we don’t learn from history we repeat the same mistakes.