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What would the Left call the Right, if the small boat people were white?

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Blondiebeachbabe · 29/09/2026 13:19

I'll start by saying, I am very anti open boarders, and I am horrified that so many illegal immigrants are arriving every day. But for me, it has absolutely nothing to do with skin colour, it is more to do with :

ONE) They have no documentation, and we have no idea if they have criminal backgrounds

TWO) They tend to come from cultures where women are not respected

THREE) They often come from places where rape is not a crime

FOUR) They cannot work, and it is costing Millions to house, feed and clothe them

FIVE) We are granting asylum to some people who should never get it - like the Hamas bodyguard we heard of yesterday

Lots of valid reasons I feel, however, for me, it has nothing to do with skin colour. If I had to be locked in a room overnight with a white man from a backward culture, or a black man from the UK, I would choose the latter, every single time.

It isn't colour, it's culture

But I see that people on the Far Left just scream "Racist" to anyone who opposes illegal immigration. What would they scream, if all the small boats were full of white men? And would people still march for England?

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TheOriginalEmu · 05/10/2026 01:01

SherryCherryLady · 02/10/2026 13:52

Where is this statistic from? It's that what 90% of women in their lives have unfortunately been treated like shit from a man?

I don't know the whole study but I think everyone in their life has once had someone who made them feel shit and small.

I guess nearly 100% of women and men in the country have had someone say something mean to them?

A UN you.gov survey, but there are dozens of studies on similar themes.
Dismissing sexual harrassment and assault as ‘people saying things that are mean’ is insulting and rape apologist-adjacent.

SherryCherryLady · 05/10/2026 01:02

TheOriginalEmu · 05/10/2026 00:53

We live in a very small place. Many people know my child because she has been in the local media for activism for LGBTQ people, she organises pride events every year. She went to school with people who know her work there for LGBTQ pupils in the school.

And she does all this in an area where homophobia is rife? Right.....

SherryCherryLady · 05/10/2026 01:06

TheOriginalEmu · 05/10/2026 01:01

A UN you.gov survey, but there are dozens of studies on similar themes.
Dismissing sexual harrassment and assault as ‘people saying things that are mean’ is insulting and rape apologist-adjacent.

https://giwps.georgetown.edu/the-index/

Look at the rankings here ..

Women, Peace and Security Index - Georgetown Institute for Women, Peace and Security

Watch the 2025/26 WPS Index Launch Featured Publications

https://giwps.georgetown.edu/the-index/

TheOriginalEmu · 05/10/2026 01:07

StutterGun · 02/10/2026 14:20

At this point, I'm not entirely convinced these are genuine beliefs. The alternative is more terrifying - that there are people wandering around who really do think we're only on a par with Afghanistan for human rights.

I didn’t say we were on a par with Afghanistan for human rights. You are conflating two distinct points.
I agree that countries like afghanistan under the taliban are awful and unsafe for people. that’s the reason they people are leaving and seeking asylum in uneven first place. If those countries were safe people wouldn’t feel the need to leave.
My comments about the safety for women/lgbtq in this country were in response to the OPs reasoning for why she doesn’t want refugees here. She implied that women and lgbtq people are safe here as long as we keep out immigrants: my point was that is not true. Pretending that keeping out immigrants will make us all nice and safe is just not supported by the facts.

TheOriginalEmu · 05/10/2026 01:10

SherryCherryLady · 05/10/2026 01:02

And she does all this in an area where homophobia is rife? Right.....

Yes, She does. Areas where homophobia is rife is exactly where these kinds of things are most needed don’t you think? If it was all sunshine and roses at school then a safe space for lgbtq kids wouldn’t be needed would it?

TheOriginalEmu · 05/10/2026 01:12

SherryCherryLady · 05/10/2026 01:06

https://giwps.georgetown.edu/the-index/

Look at the rankings here ..

Yes it’s safer. I never said otherwise. see my reply to stutter gun above. Safer doesn’t mean safe. Safer doesn’t mean as long as don’t like the immigrants in we’ll be just fine.

TheOriginalEmu · 05/10/2026 01:15

EasternStandard · 02/10/2026 14:23

It’s concerning because of what they’d let go. If they think it’s all the same.

What do you mean: what id let go? I don’t let anything go. Your train of logics has fallen off somewhere when i’m saying I don’t want ANY sexual or racist or homophobic crimes being let go, makes you think i’m fine with sexual assault or something…you’ve completely misunderstood me if that’s what you think i’m saying.

Harry12345 · 05/10/2026 01:15

TheOriginalEmu · 05/10/2026 00:45

I agree, so to go back to my original point- when the OP says ‘they come from cultures that don’t respect women’ as a reason she doesn’t want immigrants here with the implication that they are dangerous…so are our own men, they also don’t respect women. So in my opinion that’s not a reason to deny asylum seekers. it is, as you say, a moot point .

So because we have men that abuse woman you don’t think it’s an issue bringing in more?

SherryCherryLady · 05/10/2026 01:17

Harry12345 · 05/10/2026 01:15

So because we have men that abuse woman you don’t think it’s an issue bringing in more?

And bringing in men from nations where women are abused at extremely higher rates

SherryCherryLady · 05/10/2026 01:20

"white man bad"

And ignores all the data and evidence where nations have men who abuse women at vastly higher and horrible rates. Things happening there that shock us.

moderate · 05/10/2026 07:07

storyinside · 04/10/2026 22:15

Thats it? 'Queers for Palestine?'

When people on here say 'leftist' that's what you're thinking?

As I said, it sums up the madness quite succinctly.

“Leftism” is an identarian position that has very little to do with economic class any more.

moderate · 05/10/2026 07:09

storyinside · 04/10/2026 22:17

It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

With you being the fish, yes.

moderate · 05/10/2026 07:10

storyinside · 04/10/2026 22:44

Ok Somerford.

@moderate who has at least had a two-word answer to the question. Fair enough.

In all seriousness, from my posts (or anyone's posts), what has led you to suspect I'm queer and / or 'for Palestine,' or in some form of cahoots with 'Queers for Palestine?'

How apt that you can’t even count up to three.

EasternStandard · 05/10/2026 07:12

TheOriginalEmu · 05/10/2026 01:12

Yes it’s safer. I never said otherwise. see my reply to stutter gun above. Safer doesn’t mean safe. Safer doesn’t mean as long as don’t like the immigrants in we’ll be just fine.

Do you want to see the asylum system changes? If so how

moderate · 05/10/2026 07:14

TheOriginalEmu · 05/10/2026 01:07

I didn’t say we were on a par with Afghanistan for human rights. You are conflating two distinct points.
I agree that countries like afghanistan under the taliban are awful and unsafe for people. that’s the reason they people are leaving and seeking asylum in uneven first place. If those countries were safe people wouldn’t feel the need to leave.
My comments about the safety for women/lgbtq in this country were in response to the OPs reasoning for why she doesn’t want refugees here. She implied that women and lgbtq people are safe here as long as we keep out immigrants: my point was that is not true. Pretending that keeping out immigrants will make us all nice and safe is just not supported by the facts.

Why do you persist in arguing against this straw man who doesn’t know the difference between “safer” and “perfectly safe”?

Do you really imagine this is winning you hearts and minds?

it’s doing the exact opposite.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 05/10/2026 07:31

storyinside · 04/10/2026 22:15

Thats it? 'Queers for Palestine?'

When people on here say 'leftist' that's what you're thinking?

"Globalise the Intifada."

moderate · 05/10/2026 08:24

YourAmplePlumPoster · 05/10/2026 07:31

"Globalise the Intifada."

Aye but that’s just pure Islamist rhetoric. “Queers for Palestine” serves also to highlight the ridiculousness of identity politics. @

What would the Left call the Right, if the small boat people were white?
LuckyHazelFox · 05/10/2026 08:41

moderate · 05/10/2026 07:07

As I said, it sums up the madness quite succinctly.

“Leftism” is an identarian position that has very little to do with economic class any more.

Otherwise know as the omnicause; the description, of which, winds up lefties. Brainwashed following orders vis a vis Palestinian protest being deliberately held on 7th October. Polanski deliberately skipping Green party vote on zionism being racist so he couldn't be held to account.

moderate · 05/10/2026 08:55

LuckyHazelFox · 05/10/2026 08:41

Otherwise know as the omnicause; the description, of which, winds up lefties. Brainwashed following orders vis a vis Palestinian protest being deliberately held on 7th October. Polanski deliberately skipping Green party vote on zionism being racist so he couldn't be held to account.

Choosing Oct 7 as the date for their anti-Israel protest sends a clear message: the Islamists believe they have already won and can now be openly antisemitic.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 05/10/2026 09:02

Back on topic: a whole town of 80,000 citizens, Gosport, was put into lockdown by the police to facilitate the arrival of another boatload from Normandy yesterday. British citizens put under curfew in their own town. Is that right?

LuckyHazelFox · 05/10/2026 09:02

moderate · 05/10/2026 08:55

Choosing Oct 7 as the date for their anti-Israel protest sends a clear message: the Islamists believe they have already won and can now be openly antisemitic.

Yep, aided and abetted by proud people who insist they are morally superior. Fucking joke.

LuckyHazelFox · 05/10/2026 09:04

YourAmplePlumPoster · 05/10/2026 09:02

Back on topic: a whole town of 80,000 citizens, Gosport, was put into lockdown by the police to facilitate the arrival of another boatload from Normandy yesterday. British citizens put under curfew in their own town. Is that right?

I know there's a protest or sit in going on where residents are refusing to be moved. Only saw it at a glance so might be hopelessly wrong.

YourAmplePlumPoster · 05/10/2026 09:04

The Green Party is in effect the Islam Party.

Duncantoldme2 · 05/10/2026 09:10

moderate · 05/10/2026 08:55

Choosing Oct 7 as the date for their anti-Israel protest sends a clear message: the Islamists believe they have already won and can now be openly antisemitic.

Yes. And as a result of this and the unwanted mass immigration of undocumented unknown men, the UK will get a far right wing government (sadly, I'd prefer Kemi). It'll be like Trump in the US. And frankly - the left wing loons have only themselves to blame. As we can see from some of the replies on this thread.

The women who prioritise unknown undocumented young male immigrants from countries where sexual violence against women is not unusual, where women are second class citizens, are the racist ones - without question.

These women think that ‘people of colour’ can‘t be victimised as they are always the victims, by nature of the fact they are not white. To them the oppressor is by default, the white person. It’s idiotic. And unforgivable when the safety of UK women and girls is at unnecessary risk.

There are places where white people, have never set foot that people of colour have been oppressing people of colour for years. Black people have oppressed black people - black on black slavery anyone? No didn't think so. Somalis killing Somalis. Syrians killing Syrians, Iraqis killing Iraqis, Arabs killing Arabs - Muslims killing Muslims. And yet.

Apparently Islamic terror threats/ investigation take up 75% of the MI5 security budget. Imagine what we don't see because of work they are doing.

Makes me sick to the stomach. But this is what is happening before our eyes.

Duncantoldme2 · 05/10/2026 09:11

YourAmplePlumPoster · 05/10/2026 09:04

The Green Party is in effect the Islam Party.

Lots of votes that way lie. Innit.

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