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Another Christmas one - am AIBU, or my husband or my parents?

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Donostiera · 29/09/2026 11:16

Sorry. Very long and just so boring, though causing me huge misery. My parents live very far away (as far as possible in the UK), a bugger of a journey and expensive. I'm an only child and love them but they are quite problematic; child-rearing probably wasn't their forte and they are getting old and selfish now. We aren't one of those close families that can't imagine not seeing each other at every opportunity, and it's frequently difficult when we do. My husband's parents are both deceased. We have one daughter. Anyway, normally they come to us every second year for Christmas and we visit them for New Year in the other years. Everything was on course for that to happen as normal when my mother sent an email saying 'don't worry if you all can't face the awful journey, we won't mind if you don't come especially as we'll be seeing you in October' (my daughter and I are meeting up with them for a few days at a point midway between us). So I made the fatal error of taking that to be the truth and actually thought maybe Mum couldn't face the catering etc, as she's just had a second hip replacement. So said we aren't going, husband mightily relieved and me too as he is always awful to me when they are around (tension between daughter and wife roles that he just doesn't seem to have it in him to deal with, so I normally end up peacekeeping in public and crying a lot in private). Spoke to mum a week later and she was very huffy but said nothing. Spoke to dad the next week and he 'just had to tell me' that she is devastated, has been crying into the Christmas pudding mix, can't bear the idea of having no-one visit; furthermore I should be modelling to my daughter that one should be dutiful towards grandparents (bear in mind I never saw either of mine more than once a year when I was a kid and I have taken her to see them twice this year already). So of course I feel dreadful and think we should make the trip after all, but also really cross at being emotionally blackmailed. Husband can't see past the emotional blackmail and goes on about my 'guilt' as if it's a negative trait, whereas I see it as conscience - I've upset them and have it in my power to be the bigger person by changing my mind (even though I and husband will then have a shit time). And I feel there's a strong element of duty there; they won't be around forever and they have been and are generous to me / us in their somewhat controlling way, though never exactly emotionally supportive. If Mum hadn't sent that email we'd just have arranged to go as normal, because we 'ought'. Now husband is saying I want to prioritise being at their beck and call over our relationship which 'always suffers when we visit them'. The latter is true but we can't very well never go and see them again and he would have put up with it if the normal arrangement hadn't been called into question. And they live somewhere where it would be insane to visit for less than 4 days. My daughter is happy to visit them and we more or less manage to keep the tension private (she's 15 so not completely oblivious). So what on earth is the right thing to do? My vision of New Year in Lanzarote obviously isn't going to happen as parents know we don't have alternative plans and to make some now, knowing of their upset, just seems too mean. They won't come to us or meet midway, though they are happy to have two winter sun holidays in November and January so travel is not off the table per se.

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TFImBackIn · 29/09/2026 12:24

OP, I'm afraid I don't like the sound of your husband. It doesn't sound as though he treats you very well at all.

I think your mum was perhaps just wanting reassurance that you wanted to come to see her.

Are you happily married, would you say?

Donostiera · 29/09/2026 12:33

TFImBackIn · 29/09/2026 12:24

OP, I'm afraid I don't like the sound of your husband. It doesn't sound as though he treats you very well at all.

I think your mum was perhaps just wanting reassurance that you wanted to come to see her.

Are you happily married, would you say?

I don't really know. So that's a no, I guess. But probably not so unhappily as to want to be unmarried. We earn similarly but I do all the housework, cooking, food shopping, laundry and everything for my daughter, and all the usual women's mental load of organising bills, holidays, insurance, birthdays, Christmas etc etc. He has form for going silent if he doesn't like a situation. He went through a long phase of criticising me for being fat (I'm not) which he eventually got the message was not on but it has scarred me as I now have even less confidence. But he's generally quite good company, I think I love him - the good bits anyway - our daughter is happy and stable. As long as I do everything for everyone it just about works. But I do think not being sure of his merits (20 years in) makes me feel more inclined to pander to my parents.

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Donostiera · 29/09/2026 12:34

TFImBackIn · 29/09/2026 12:24

OP, I'm afraid I don't like the sound of your husband. It doesn't sound as though he treats you very well at all.

I think your mum was perhaps just wanting reassurance that you wanted to come to see her.

Are you happily married, would you say?

Maybe I should add, he's had a run of health problems, including not being ablate drive for a year, so even more has fallen on me in past couple of years.

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AshCullen1894 · 29/09/2026 12:37

Donostiera · 29/09/2026 11:26

That's my husband's line, and I do feel very cross about it. But I'm just not sure if sticking to my guns is worth the general misery (hers and mine because she won't be miserable quietly) and I do feel sorry for my father having to deal with it. Also very cross with him for putting me in this position as, tbf, my mum didn't say anything - though quite apparently had the hump

Might be time to put your foot down, OP and stop allowing them to emotionally blackmail you.

Hazyjaneishere · 29/09/2026 12:40

Donostiera · 29/09/2026 12:34

Maybe I should add, he's had a run of health problems, including not being ablate drive for a year, so even more has fallen on me in past couple of years.

You’re making excuses. His way of dealing with his frustrations is to take them out on you. Your daughter can also see this. Being in poor health isn’t an excuse.

mindutopia · 29/09/2026 12:48

Nah, I definitely wouldn’t be going if someone pulled this stunt. If you normally go for New Years, why not go then and leave your poor husband home? I don’t particularly enjoy visiting my ILs. Dh takes the kids and goes without me. It’s bliss.

nutbrownhare15 · 29/09/2026 12:59

This sounds awful. I think you need to stand up for yourself. Maybe get some counselling? Tell your parents your mum made it clear it was ok not to come and you made plans around that. And that you will see them at X date and at X date. Stop taking your husband to visit them just also tell him straight his behaviour around your parents is completely unacceptable and must stop. Do what works for you and DD from now on. They get upset with you no matter how much you try not to upset them. So focus on you and DD.

InBedBy10 · 29/09/2026 13:00

I would have assumed your mams email was her hinting that she didnt want you to come. And this was her way of telling you.

I find it odd the posters telling you not to let your parents emotionally blackmail you but are fine with your husband doing it. He sounds horrible to be honest.

If I was you id take my daughter away for Christmas and leave your parents and your husband to sort themselves. Seriously.

anonymous24601 · 29/09/2026 13:00

Your mum is being a bit of a twat (you were supposed to email back and say, don't be silly of course we want to come!) but your real problem is your husband. If your husband wasn't an arse would you just roll your eyes, say FFS, perhaps be irritated for a day or so and then just go for Christmas as originally planned and get it over with? If so, that's your answer.

Whoops75 · 29/09/2026 13:07

I think they are both being awful to you and you and your daughter should run away from home and have Christmas in Lanzarote!

Honestly OP
What do you want? Would you have a nice time if you went to your parents without DH?
Would you like a quiet Christmas in your own home? Guilt aside what would you chose?

Wilsonthedog · 29/09/2026 13:13

Donostiera · 29/09/2026 12:34

Maybe I should add, he's had a run of health problems, including not being ablate drive for a year, so even more has fallen on me in past couple of years.

Let's hope you don't get a spell of bad health. Men like this don't react well when their wife-appliance malfunctions and stops being able to do everything around the house.

Pumpkinsaregrowingnicely · 29/09/2026 13:19

Stay home. Your dm might learn a lesson about not playing mind games.

ginasevern · 29/09/2026 13:21

I think your husband sounds more manipulative and awful than your parents to be honest. At least they're elderly and quite clearly really want your company, and that of your daughter. Your daughter is angry with her Dad's behaviour, not her grandparents - which is telling. And you say they've been generous to you (presumably that means both you and your DH). You also encouraged your DH to be attentive to his own father but that he doesn't usually do anything for anyone. He sounds like a cunt. Personally I'd go to my parents and leave the husband at home.

42goingon14 · 29/09/2026 13:29

Donostiera · 29/09/2026 12:33

I don't really know. So that's a no, I guess. But probably not so unhappily as to want to be unmarried. We earn similarly but I do all the housework, cooking, food shopping, laundry and everything for my daughter, and all the usual women's mental load of organising bills, holidays, insurance, birthdays, Christmas etc etc. He has form for going silent if he doesn't like a situation. He went through a long phase of criticising me for being fat (I'm not) which he eventually got the message was not on but it has scarred me as I now have even less confidence. But he's generally quite good company, I think I love him - the good bits anyway - our daughter is happy and stable. As long as I do everything for everyone it just about works. But I do think not being sure of his merits (20 years in) makes me feel more inclined to pander to my parents.

If you need to do everything for everyone in order for it to just about work, it’s not working.

Genuinely I think you should find a therapist and try and work out why you think it’s your job to make everything work for everyone else. Relationships are collaborative - we help eachother - one person doesn’t run around like a guilt ridden headless chicken trying to make everyone happy, that’s not sustainable or desirable.

From your brief posts I assume your toxic relationship with your parents have made it very difficult for you to engage in a normal way with your DH, who frankly sounds just as bad.

if you don’t think you deserve good things (you do, but I assume that might be hard to accept right now), do it for your daughter. Break the cycle. You can do it 💪

ArgyMcBargy · 29/09/2026 13:32

You are not responsible for your mum's wellbeing. How does that sound? Impossible? It did to me when a friend once said it and took 2 years of therapy to recognise the hook of guilt dominating my relationship with my mum. I'm sorry you don't have support from your husband in managing this.
But your mantra needs to be that it is not your responsibility, your mum has made her bed, and she won't be alone for Christmas as she has your dad.

Twilightstarbright · 29/09/2026 13:35

Don’t go. You have the opportunity to reset the relationship here. They said it was ok not to come so follow through and do your Lanzarote trip. Visit them in Feb half term/Easter instead.

Newusername2026 · 29/09/2026 13:38

Have you spoken to your mum directly? It could be as you originally thought, that she can't face catering this year. Could you swap the year so they come to you. Maybe your Dad is sad not to see you OR your parents have not discussed with each other. I haven't read it all about your husband but I think you need to do what feels right for you

Donostiera · 29/09/2026 13:39

mindutopia · 29/09/2026 12:48

Nah, I definitely wouldn’t be going if someone pulled this stunt. If you normally go for New Years, why not go then and leave your poor husband home? I don’t particularly enjoy visiting my ILs. Dh takes the kids and goes without me. It’s bliss.

It's New Year that's in question - they come here every second Christmas and we go there at New Year the other years, normally. It just seems such an admission of non-unity to go without my husband (when every other time I go there is with my daughter and without him). And I don't want him to be alone and miserable either.

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Donostiera · 29/09/2026 13:40

anonymous24601 · 29/09/2026 13:00

Your mum is being a bit of a twat (you were supposed to email back and say, don't be silly of course we want to come!) but your real problem is your husband. If your husband wasn't an arse would you just roll your eyes, say FFS, perhaps be irritated for a day or so and then just go for Christmas as originally planned and get it over with? If so, that's your answer.

Pretty much...

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ForeverPombear · 29/09/2026 13:41

Dump your Mum, Dad and husband. Take your daughter somewhere and you can both enjoy your Christmas.

Donostiera · 29/09/2026 13:42

Newusername2026 · 29/09/2026 13:38

Have you spoken to your mum directly? It could be as you originally thought, that she can't face catering this year. Could you swap the year so they come to you. Maybe your Dad is sad not to see you OR your parents have not discussed with each other. I haven't read it all about your husband but I think you need to do what feels right for you

No, I need to do that I think. it's entirely possible that my Dad was being emotionally tone deaf and thought he was doing something good for her by telling me about her misery that she had decided to keep (more or less, bar a bit of huffiness) under wraps. They refuse to come to us though.

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ProfessorofDarkArts · 29/09/2026 13:44

I really feel for you OP, I had years of this when I was married - parents manipulating me to do something and DH making me feel bad for doing it. He used to behave dreadfully when we saw them as well, it was so uncomfortable for me and my DD.

I was completely stuck in the middle because my DM sounds very much like yours including a partner who enables her mostly because it’s easier for him. But I felt my DH should rise above it and support me not make things harder, it was only a couple of times a year. In the end I decided it wasn’t worth putting myself and DD through it any more, we saw them separately for a few years before we finally split up.

As an aside who do you have to do all the travelling?

ThirdStorm · 29/09/2026 13:45

You can love and care about your family in different ways, even if you don't visit or speak as often. I've been in a similar situation and for my own wellbeing/sanity I had to drop the rope with some relatives. I absolutely love and care but I can't do what I once did, it all got too much. Partly from a time perspective in lieu of having my own life and priorities but also, the manipulation about what I should do and be to them. Initially I felt so guilty but their expectations of me became unmanageable. I may not be making much sense but wanted to share my experience, but it is absolutely fine that you don't visit at Christmas!

Donostiera · 29/09/2026 13:45

ForeverPombear · 29/09/2026 13:41

Dump your Mum, Dad and husband. Take your daughter somewhere and you can both enjoy your Christmas.

Tempting though that is, my DD is a massive traditionalist and wants everything to be as usual, traditions I normally love too. Hopefully by the time we get to December I will again. The parent visit is always New Year, not Christmas, as we decided when we had DD we'd always have Christmas in our own home - with them there as often as they want come which has turned out to be every second year.

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Donostiera · 29/09/2026 13:47

ginasevern · 29/09/2026 13:21

I think your husband sounds more manipulative and awful than your parents to be honest. At least they're elderly and quite clearly really want your company, and that of your daughter. Your daughter is angry with her Dad's behaviour, not her grandparents - which is telling. And you say they've been generous to you (presumably that means both you and your DH). You also encouraged your DH to be attentive to his own father but that he doesn't usually do anything for anyone. He sounds like a cunt. Personally I'd go to my parents and leave the husband at home.

Thanks for this. There's truth in it. But of course no-one, least of all me, is a clear-cut 'good guy'

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