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Another Christmas one - am AIBU, or my husband or my parents?

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Donostiera · 29/09/2026 11:16

Sorry. Very long and just so boring, though causing me huge misery. My parents live very far away (as far as possible in the UK), a bugger of a journey and expensive. I'm an only child and love them but they are quite problematic; child-rearing probably wasn't their forte and they are getting old and selfish now. We aren't one of those close families that can't imagine not seeing each other at every opportunity, and it's frequently difficult when we do. My husband's parents are both deceased. We have one daughter. Anyway, normally they come to us every second year for Christmas and we visit them for New Year in the other years. Everything was on course for that to happen as normal when my mother sent an email saying 'don't worry if you all can't face the awful journey, we won't mind if you don't come especially as we'll be seeing you in October' (my daughter and I are meeting up with them for a few days at a point midway between us). So I made the fatal error of taking that to be the truth and actually thought maybe Mum couldn't face the catering etc, as she's just had a second hip replacement. So said we aren't going, husband mightily relieved and me too as he is always awful to me when they are around (tension between daughter and wife roles that he just doesn't seem to have it in him to deal with, so I normally end up peacekeeping in public and crying a lot in private). Spoke to mum a week later and she was very huffy but said nothing. Spoke to dad the next week and he 'just had to tell me' that she is devastated, has been crying into the Christmas pudding mix, can't bear the idea of having no-one visit; furthermore I should be modelling to my daughter that one should be dutiful towards grandparents (bear in mind I never saw either of mine more than once a year when I was a kid and I have taken her to see them twice this year already). So of course I feel dreadful and think we should make the trip after all, but also really cross at being emotionally blackmailed. Husband can't see past the emotional blackmail and goes on about my 'guilt' as if it's a negative trait, whereas I see it as conscience - I've upset them and have it in my power to be the bigger person by changing my mind (even though I and husband will then have a shit time). And I feel there's a strong element of duty there; they won't be around forever and they have been and are generous to me / us in their somewhat controlling way, though never exactly emotionally supportive. If Mum hadn't sent that email we'd just have arranged to go as normal, because we 'ought'. Now husband is saying I want to prioritise being at their beck and call over our relationship which 'always suffers when we visit them'. The latter is true but we can't very well never go and see them again and he would have put up with it if the normal arrangement hadn't been called into question. And they live somewhere where it would be insane to visit for less than 4 days. My daughter is happy to visit them and we more or less manage to keep the tension private (she's 15 so not completely oblivious). So what on earth is the right thing to do? My vision of New Year in Lanzarote obviously isn't going to happen as parents know we don't have alternative plans and to make some now, knowing of their upset, just seems too mean. They won't come to us or meet midway, though they are happy to have two winter sun holidays in November and January so travel is not off the table per se.

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MajorSamanthaCarter · 29/09/2026 11:22

Ask her why she sent the initial email saying she understood if you didn't want to go this year. The emotional blackmail is something I wouldn't tolerate.

Donostiera · 29/09/2026 11:26

MajorSamanthaCarter · 29/09/2026 11:22

Ask her why she sent the initial email saying she understood if you didn't want to go this year. The emotional blackmail is something I wouldn't tolerate.

That's my husband's line, and I do feel very cross about it. But I'm just not sure if sticking to my guns is worth the general misery (hers and mine because she won't be miserable quietly) and I do feel sorry for my father having to deal with it. Also very cross with him for putting me in this position as, tbf, my mum didn't say anything - though quite apparently had the hump

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DisappearingGirl · 29/09/2026 11:27

Blimey, no advice but they sound very hard work. Why send an email saying it's fine not to come if they'd actually like you to come?

I would also have assumed (if they'd never sent a similar email in previous years) that they either genuinely didn't mind either way or that they would actually prefer not to host this year.

Motorwayview · 29/09/2026 11:28

They are playing you like a violin.
Im old enough to be a parent in this dynamic- we have never felt our DC and partners are obligated to visit for Christmas.

ByTipsyShark · 29/09/2026 11:28

Sounds like you all need a year off. I’d be furious if I was your husband and you started backtracking. Stand up for yourself and ask why the email was sent in the first place.

Motorwayview · 29/09/2026 11:29

Donostiera · 29/09/2026 11:26

That's my husband's line, and I do feel very cross about it. But I'm just not sure if sticking to my guns is worth the general misery (hers and mine because she won't be miserable quietly) and I do feel sorry for my father having to deal with it. Also very cross with him for putting me in this position as, tbf, my mum didn't say anything - though quite apparently had the hump

Its time you stood up for yourself and your husband @Donostiera

Donostiera · 29/09/2026 11:30

DisappearingGirl · 29/09/2026 11:27

Blimey, no advice but they sound very hard work. Why send an email saying it's fine not to come if they'd actually like you to come?

I would also have assumed (if they'd never sent a similar email in previous years) that they either genuinely didn't mind either way or that they would actually prefer not to host this year.

oh good, I'm glad I wasn't being completely deranged. Motherf even said 'I expect Oscar [our cat] would prefer you to stay at home and feed him turkey'. Maybe she was high on painkillers after the hip op...

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pulpJarvis · 29/09/2026 11:30

Have a year off. Honestly, it's emotional blackmail. You've made other plans - even if those plans are just not travelling to see them. Make plans to see them when the weather is better next year.

Gymnopedie · 29/09/2026 11:34

I think you misread the email. You were supposed to reply 'Oh no Mum, we wouldn't dream of missing it. Of course we'll be there'.

But you know what they say, play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Your mum played a stupid game.

Edited to say I don't think you should go. It sounds like DH puts up with a lot so give him a year off. Different if the email hadn't happened, but it did and you told him you weren't going. Stick to it and prioritise being a wife this year.

sesquipedalian · 29/09/2026 11:37

OP, when you spoke to your DF and he guilted you into going for Christmas, why didn’t you just send him the message from DM saying that she wouldn’t mind if you didn’t come? I think your DPs are being staggeringly unreasonable - parents really shouldn’t put a three line whip on their DC to come and visit (and I’m the DGM in this scenario, although my DGC are rather younger than your DC).

Donostiera · 29/09/2026 11:38

Thanks everyone for responses so far. I think I've got used over the years to being manipulated by them. But I also know I'll be really sad over the festive period if I feel I've made them miserable. That's how the e/b works, of course. And I'm not sure how much my husband needs sticking up for, though, as he's always horrible to me when they visit or we visit them and certainly never sticks up for me. Silent treatment, basically. I suppose I feel like I and our daughter are all they have and I bend over backwards trying to please everyone (which I appreciate is very annoying for my husband but he never does anything for anyone so we are at different ends of the spectrum). If he came out and said how much he hated seeing me being g manipulated because he loves me and my happiness is paramount, that might feel better. Instead he tries to manipulate me in his own turn. But maybe this notion I have of duty towards the elderly parents is just folly. I encouraged him to be very attentive to his father when he was elderly (never knew his mother)

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Donostiera · 29/09/2026 11:39

sesquipedalian · 29/09/2026 11:37

OP, when you spoke to your DF and he guilted you into going for Christmas, why didn’t you just send him the message from DM saying that she wouldn’t mind if you didn’t come? I think your DPs are being staggeringly unreasonable - parents really shouldn’t put a three line whip on their DC to come and visit (and I’m the DGM in this scenario, although my DGC are rather younger than your DC).

I did read it out to him on the phone. Also they are so fucking co-dependent they only have one email account between them. 😆 He knows, and has chosen her side.

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ByTipsyShark · 29/09/2026 11:40

Your husband shouldn’t do that when they’re around but he's probably had years of seeing them treat you like shit and he’s fed up that you all feel like you have to accommodate it.

Motnight · 29/09/2026 11:42

I think that you might be surrounded by toxic people, Op.

Donostiera · 29/09/2026 11:43

ByTipsyShark · 29/09/2026 11:40

Your husband shouldn’t do that when they’re around but he's probably had years of seeing them treat you like shit and he’s fed up that you all feel like you have to accommodate it.

That's valid but I wish he would put it that way, rather than being angry at / criticising me. It's obvious because my daughter's summary is that 'daddy is always horrible when granny and Grandad are around'.

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Donostiera · 29/09/2026 11:45

Motnight · 29/09/2026 11:42

I think that you might be surrounded by toxic people, Op.

Edited

I think that too. But who doesn't think they are a saint and everyone else is wrong?! I struggle to get perspective on it. There's a t-shirt doing the rounds on social media with a cat lounging around and the message 'I won't be doing it because I don't want to, thanks'. I definitely need to be more cat. But if everyone was completely cat, where would kindness and care be?

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Pedant61 · 29/09/2026 11:47

Do whatever you want, OP - this is your life, and there is no obligation to visit your parents, nor to give in to emotional blackmail. Book Lanzarote and make the most of the time while your daughter is still living at home. Oh, and that's not to mention the fact that your poor husband deserves a nice, relaxed Christmas and New Year.
Your mother won't be on her own - she has your father!

Hazyjaneishere · 29/09/2026 11:49

I think the bigger more central issue here is your husband’s behaviour. Not very supportive or understanding. Family dynamics are complex, not everyone is easy. But it’s a lot easier to deal with tricky parents/ siblings/ children if you as a couple can have compassion for one another and be supportive as well as seeing it from the other person’s perspective.

all that said, she gave you permission not to come and you made another plan. I’m failing to see why that’s not acceptable to her/ them and why you aren’t able to say that, clearly and kindly.

Starlight7080 · 29/09/2026 11:51

I dont know how you have not had a complete meltdown infront of all of them. And told them all to grow up . And start communicating like adults.
Its all mixed signals and messages and emotional blackmail. How do you cope?
No your dh is not being nice in around about way. He is being a selfish spoilt horrible man.
And instead of holding it in infront of them just tell your parents when they stress/upset you. What have you got to lose? You said yourself you are not close. You dont spend much time together.

Maybe if you tell them all what you actually think then they will start behaving better. Which can only benefit your daughter. Then hopefully she is not in the same situation in 20 years time .

MagicUser1 · 29/09/2026 11:51

So you grew up with manipulative, narcissistic parents and you've married a manipulative , narcissistic man? Unfortunately, that's not an unusual pattern.

Re Christmas, your mother is being awful and you should NOT be falling for this. A compromise in a situation like this might be that yo and yoru dd go up for a few days before christmas to spend time with them (or after).

But your DH's behaviur is not okay. But DH and I have issues with the other's family at times, and both oare aware of that. But he doesn't pick fights with me because of my family and vice versa. god. we're a team.

Hazyjaneishere · 29/09/2026 11:53

MagicUser1 · 29/09/2026 11:51

So you grew up with manipulative, narcissistic parents and you've married a manipulative , narcissistic man? Unfortunately, that's not an unusual pattern.

Re Christmas, your mother is being awful and you should NOT be falling for this. A compromise in a situation like this might be that yo and yoru dd go up for a few days before christmas to spend time with them (or after).

But your DH's behaviur is not okay. But DH and I have issues with the other's family at times, and both oare aware of that. But he doesn't pick fights with me because of my family and vice versa. god. we're a team.

THIS. And you owe it to your daughter to not be putting up with all this shit from him so she doesn’t do the same. You write like you’re powerless OP, take back your power.

Freya1542 · 29/09/2026 12:02

@Donostiera "really cross at being emotionally blackmailed", this is exactly what it is.

Being a people pleaser is, absolutely, imo, the most destructive learned behaviour anyone could suffer and is so damaging, especially for yourself.

Your husband though, omg!! Is he always so unsupportive.

He knows the difficult relationship with your parents and I'm sure he is pissed off but treating you badly as "payback" when you do visit them is passive aggressive and really shouldn't be tolerated.

At the heart of it, you're allowing your parents to manipulate and exploit your lack of boundaries but I do understand that it's difficult to unlearn, for the sake of your marriage though @Donostiera, stand firm and go to Lanzarote.

P.s. and have a word with him!!

TrippleCooked · 29/09/2026 12:14

@Donostiera unfortunately your dear mother wants to believe she’s not a pain the arse, but expects you to read between the lines anyway.

Pest! Unless you actually believe this will be there last year on Earth, then don’t go. Pretend your father hasn’t said anything.

Wilsonthedog · 29/09/2026 12:18

Ah, OP. You remind me of my lovely mother-in-law. She bends over backwards to please those around her, and no one appreciates it or is grateful to her; they just get very cross with her when their needs clash with someone else's, and she physically can't accommodate both, and has to choose. Awful.
Your dad sounds like the classic enabler, berating you to keep your mother happy so he gets a quiet life. Your husband sounds like he resents you focusing on others - perhaps because there's less focus on him?
Go away with just your daughter for Christmas. Leave the rest of them to fend for themselves.

aLFIESMA · 29/09/2026 12:24

Oh lovely, you have accepted that you are to blame for all your parent's woes and haven't questioned it.
It isn't possible to fix everything and sometimes letting a situation 'play out' where you would normally jump in is, in fact for the best.
Your mum has your dad there and they, like lots of others will enjoy a quiet Christmas.
Just make peace with it and do your own thing this year, its not on for them to manipulate you, take care x