AIBU to wonder why TUI uses Ryanair and easyJet flights?

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Why do TUI keep.usimg Ryanair and easyJet for their flights? They've got their own planes
This dosent happen with Jet 2.😏

They want to make money.

I noticed that. If I book a holiday with tui I want to fly with tui, not poxy Ryanair. Only use jet2 now.

If they are going to use Ryanair flights, they could at least charge Ryanair prices

So they can sell holidays to more places.

Exactly. Sometimes I fly with Ryanair if I book a loveholidays holiday but overall we pay a lot less when we do that. If I want to book with TUI I want to fly with them also.

Because Ryanair has lots of planes that go from lots of places to lots of other places. TUI doesn't.

To be able to sell more holidays to more places

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It allows TUI to sell holidays to destinations their airline arm doesn't serve.

I do agree it’s a bit crap though, as you don’t get the same level of service

Yep but for me, as soon as I see RuinAir as the flight provider, I scroll on by. I will never give O'Leary a penny of my money.

Oh I get that, I completely understand, but with aircraft being so expensive to buy/lease and operate you have to fill aircraft as best you can to make a profit on the flight.

If TUI cannot for whatever reason, sell a large number of holidays at a particular destination their options are basically buy seats with another carrier (and make some money) or not sell at all to that destination (and possibly lose the custom).

That's fairly common across the industry, and IMO it's OK as long as it's clear before booking who is providing the actual flight.

You also end up paying more than the stated price as , being Ryanair, even with Tui, baggage isn’t included, personally filter it to Tui only flights

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I don’t book a TUI holiday if they don’t use their own airlines. I don’t want to use third party airlines.
I often book easyJet holidays, but it is an all in package.

This. On routes where they can fill planes they will have their own flights but on holidays where they may only have 20 people from a given airport of course they won't run a flight. In particular it increases the options for those of is wanting to fly from regional airports.

They won't have slots at all airports.

You're not wrong but of course if an airline bid/buys a slot (and they can be eye wateringly expensive) the airline, in this case TUI, then has to run services on it.

That means finding aircraft and crew from somewhere and the most common way of doing that is dumping a less profitable route so it's only worth doing if the company can fill the flights to the new destination....

Their choice, as long as they are upfront before you select any flight as part of your holiday.

I won't fly Ryanair either.

Pretty much.

A lot of people like the protection of a package holiday, especially considering the turbulent few years we've had. There's obviously a way for Tui to make a profit out of offering packages where maybe there isn't enough demand or an available slot for them to take a full plane, but still some people who want them in charge of the holiday.

I hate Jet2 with a passion.

I was wondering the same thing yesterday!

We have a holiday booked to Spain with TUI. They fly there but our flights are with Ryanair

I’ve noticed that more this year, trying to book a trip currently. They did use easy jet a bit and British airways for long haul but now they seem to not have planes from my local airport. I don’t want to go 100 miles to the next nearest airport they do have flights from when I live 7 miles from this one. I refuse to fly Ryan Air and it means paying extra for luggage, a seat etc so works out more

Surely luggage is on the same basis regardless of which airline is used if it’s a package deal. Quite honestly for a 2/3 hour flight I don’t care which airline it is. You’re not on the plane for long enough for it to matter.

I'm afraid that's how the industry has always worked.

Routes come and go as the popular destinations change, some airlines switch airports at the drop of a hat as the economics of operating from airport A rather than B changes.

It's not just TUI, Ryanair and Easyjets route networks have changed massively over the decades.