to think some people do not deserve to have kids? the mean bastards

[greenladybird]

cannot understand they way some people treat thier own kids.

makes me feel sick.

I have grave concerns about a woman who doesn't do everything her children wants, can we not virtually stone her????

that's what happens if you eat a cheese panini followed by a ham panini

(do you get it?)

what other funny excuses do you think up?

not being a spineless wanker?

I called my DS1 an arsehole the other day. He was actually being an arsehole.

You shouldn't have done that

.....arseholes are useful!

The nastiest case of NPD I ever heard of was this Poor parents, I am in no way saying that deserved what happened to them. But it's a cautionary tale when it comes to not being realistic with your kids. They need to be called arseholes & muppets sometimes. Otherwise... There is a potential risk of total craziness. Brrr...

GLB - I don't 'think excuses up'. I do things for a reason because as MB so eloquently put it - I am not a spineless wanker either.

thebecster - I remember that case - it was absolutely awful

Greenladybird I agree that some people do not deserve kids, some people are not fit to raise phlem let alone children HOWEVER I don't think trying to teach your child to be responsibe and that actions have consequences are bad parenting.

Being a stright parent is not a bad thing, if more parents stopped running after their children and covering up for them and not teaching them that in life you have to be responcerble than maybe more children would have respect for everyone and everything around them.

is saying 'get to your room you whingy sod' to a 10.6 year old bad?(he was whinging because i wouldnt let him go to the library as he has been off school with a tummy bug today).

in my defence he is often a whingy sod.

See? thats why you should shout at your children, so they don't grow up to be wankers. Did the op never get shouted at....

so, glb, do enlighten us as to how you parent your children?

Just so as we may all learn from your perfectness you understand.

good lord, i thought the PE thread was about some poor kid being forced to run barefoot in circles over gravel until s/he collapsed
teaching a kid (who sounds JUST like I was) the value of possessions is a great idea, and the note to the PE teacher is very tongue-in-cheek and funny.
ridiculous.........abuse?
My skinny european arse is it abuse.
The PE mum seems like she's a motivated and thoughtful, involved parent who actually thinks about long-term consequences.

I shouldn't but I'm imagining telling DD she is a muppet and then saying 'Its for your own good, if I don't do this you might murder me in my bed' But I'm a bad person.

to be serious, my kids know that I love them and that I always will. But that doesn't mean that I have to agree with everything that they do and let them get away with 'murder'.

My love is uncoditional, as is my support and part of that is teaching them not to be spinless wankers either.

Agree with your kids at evey turn, regardless of their behaviour, and you'll rue the day.

Not sure if this is appropriate to post here and it is a bit 'twee' but I like the meaning of it.

I think in fact I copied it from a Mumsnet thread many years ago and kept it for myself to read every now and then.

F A M I L Y

I ran into a stranger as he passed by, "Oh excuse me please" was my reply.
He said, "Please excuse me too; I wasn't watching for you."
We were very polite, this stranger and I. We went on our way and we said goodbye.
But at home a different story is told, How we treat our loved ones, young and old.

Later that day, cooking the evening meal, My son stood beside me very still.
When I turned, I nearly knocked him down. "Move out of the way," I said with a frown.
He walked away, his little heart broken.
I didn't realize how harshly I'd spoken.

While I lay awake in bed, God's still small voice came to me and said,
"While dealing with a stranger, common courtesy you use, but the family you love, you seem to abuse.
Go and look on the kitchen floor, You'll find some flowers there by the door.
Those are the flowers he brought for you. He picked them himself: pink, yellow and blue.
He stood very quietly not to spoil the surprise, you never saw the tears that filled his little eyes."

By this time, I felt very small, And now my tears began to fall.
I quietly went and knelt by his bed; "Wake up, little one, wake up," I said.
"Are these the flowers you picked for me?" He smiled, "I found 'em, out by the tree.
I picked 'em because they're pretty like you, I knew you'd like 'em, especially the blue."

I said, "Son, I'm very sorry for the way I acted today; I shouldn't have yelled at you that way." He said, "Oh, Mom, that's okay. I love you anyway."

I said, "Son, I love you too, and I do like the flowers, especially the blue."

FAMILY
Are you aware that if we died tomorrow, the company that we are working for could easily replace us in a matter of days. But the family we left behind will feel the loss for the rest of their lives.

And come to think of it, we pour ourselves more into work than into our own family, an unwise investment indeed, don't you think? So what is behind the story?

Do you know what the word FAMILY means?
FAMILY = (F)ATHER (A)ND (M)OTHER (I) (L)OVE (Y)OU

It means not caring if they wear crocs! [

what about "for the love of god dd1 can you try and be good even just for a minute?" is that okay to say to them

or

"you dont have to be talking every second of the day you know? its okay to be quiet sometimes"

or

"unless you are a banshee we will have less of the screeching, or you can go to bed"

I tend to use, 'In a warm, loving and supportive way, bugger off and let me read this in peace'

I also threaten to tie them to the leg of the table and beat them with wet lettuce leaves if they don't behave

bumblelion - please say you posted that ironically?

MB, that's going too far, you've crossed the line.