AIBU to think Burnham’s words may haunt his premiership?

[Greyrock79]

To think that Burnham’s words are going to haunt his premiership?

‘…national security can’t come at the expense of social security…’

You are like small siblings

Archie - I want that bike
charlie - I want this coat

mum - we don’t have enough money to get both - you’ll just have to wait

both stamp feet, that’s wrong , that’s not fair. I need the bike / coat for school. He can wait , I can’t

Mum / didn’t you both get money for your birthday / if you add that to what I have we might be able to afford it

NO that’s MY money given to ME

The people of Ireland only sleep at night because we defend them! And they are a huge target due to the under sea cables in their waters. And they are next to the UK which is also a target and sadly cannot move their landmass away. If we get nuked so do they.

We are, sadly, back to 80s mentality. It’s a shame we can’t go a generation without scaremongering. You think the world is scarier now than 1914, 1936, 1939, 1963, 1981, 2001? They keep us scared to keep us obedient.

Yes the US aren’t going to fund the EU (or us) as much anymore for defence. Hence the increased requirement.

You talked about his voting blocs.

His actual voting bloc was Makerfield. A predominantly white, non Muslim, Northern Town.

There is very little point in Russia invading the UK. The UK has extinguished most of its natural resources so there isn't a lot to achieve by invading. Cut off the fuel and food supply and the UK will pretty much finish itself off.

Meaning misinformation spreading is a Russian tactic. You either buy into the idea Russia is about to attack, despite their depleted forces and unwilling population, and spew it out on any internet forum you can - thus doing their job for them, or you recognise EU together with us would be able to stop Russia.

People know Russia isn't just attacking with physical force but via the internet and other means.

Do you know that the Greek pension system continued to pay the father's pension after his death to his unmarried daughters for the rest of their lives?

It was pretty bloody obvious the poster was talking about Labour's voting blocks rather than your Makerfield bollocks.

A few things happend in those years. The natural state of the world is one of war. We jist had a relatively peaceful time post Ww2 due to the balance of two superpowers, the cold war and the invention of nukes. Now the balance has gone and we have nuclear proliferation. The world is significantly more unstable.

US is funding Israel, so we don't expect anything from them.
Trump has been very clear he wants to make money from the West Bank and likes Putin. So we don't count them as allies.

Over 50% of our prime ministers this century came in “without a vote”. Don’t pretend it isn’t how our system works.

The Defence budget fell from 3.2% in the 90s to 2.3% under the Conservatives in 2024.

I don't recall this being a hot topic on MN then.

Or you spew out whatever on any forum you can to make sure we have a depleted defence budget.

No, I think he's annoying all the right people.

So what? Let’s do the right thing now
and when the conservatives get in, whenever that may be, I’m sure they’ll moan non stop about what labour didn’t spend on too
its just how it works in politics - the previous government is always the shit one and let’s blame them for whatever this current lack of funding issue is about

ODFOD

It was pretty bloody obvious the poster was weaponising race and talking bollocks.

They brought voting table. Factually nothing I have said in incorrect. They on the other have have racism...

The same posters said that about Starmer. And then ousted.

They were usually MPs though and had been in Parliament.

Another fighting age male leaving his country rather than staying to make it better.

Billionaires afraid of paying tax are low down on my list of role models.

I wouldn't call the 2010 election a thrashing for Labour, if Nick Clegg had not performed so well during the debates (which were a new thing that year) things might have been quite different because my personal opinion is that those LibDem votes were mostly taken from Labour.

But I agree with your point, I think a change of leader (PM) should trigger a GE, it would give the mutineers something to think about and maybe they would just knuckle down for the full term, if they still oust the PM at least we would be able to give some feedback.

Still their taxes helped, and now you won’t have that. If you’re ready to fill the gap then great.

Ireland also includes Northern Ireland, so of course the UK is going to want to protect that.

And this 'defence' is pretty hypothetical, nothing has happened that has needed defending yet (notwithstanding a deterrent).

You might like them better if you or anyone you love needs benefits but there's no money left in the bucket because the big tax payers have left the country. So no benefits for anyone at all. The cupboard is bare. Hooray - what a joy. Eh?

I’d like to see a before and after on how much tax he paid while living here and how much he will pay after. If he’s leaving because it’s more tax efficient, I’d hazard a guess that he’d found a way to make it more efficient while here too.