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To expect work colleagues to go for meal on theirs days off?

155 replies

Makkka · Yesterday 23:57

To think suggesting a 50th birthday meal with work colleagues is a bit self indulgent? They aren’t friends, there’s no contact or communication out of work and everyone works from home so don’t really get anytime to get to know each other.

A lady in the office has suggested she’d like everyone in the team (so 5/6 people) to do this for her birthday and she wants it to be on a Saturday but when people work full time then weekends are precious.

She’s married so not like she’s all alone. Would you go even though you don’t want to? Feel obligated to

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PouringCream · Today 09:35

RosaNovella · Today 09:31

Its my choice but also in 40 years of working all big birthday / event type things in work have been celebrated in the workplace
As before a small lunch/ buffet would be arranged by others not the person whos birthday it is
I dont think people are being miserable just honest
I would find it odd

It's their 'honesty' that is the miserable thing!

RosaNovella · Today 09:37

PouringCream · Today 09:35

It's their 'honesty' that is the miserable thing!

Yeah thats what people always say when trying to manipulate others
Selfish/ miserable etc

I would politely decline
End of

TeaIsLovely · Today 09:40

I like my colleagues and happily spend a weekend away with them on a team outing - but spending my Sat night at their b’day surrounded by their family? Nah thanks.

ItsAlwaysTwins · Today 09:40

I treat my team to lunch twice a year. But we go during the work day. I wouldn’t want to do it outside of work time.

PrettyLittleRose · Today 09:42

Makkka · Yesterday 23:57

To think suggesting a 50th birthday meal with work colleagues is a bit self indulgent? They aren’t friends, there’s no contact or communication out of work and everyone works from home so don’t really get anytime to get to know each other.

A lady in the office has suggested she’d like everyone in the team (so 5/6 people) to do this for her birthday and she wants it to be on a Saturday but when people work full time then weekends are precious.

She’s married so not like she’s all alone. Would you go even though you don’t want to? Feel obligated to

Good grief there are some right grumpy feckers on here. Confused And self indulgent to want to celebrate your birthday with colleagues...? WTF?

Don't go if you don't want to, no-one is forcing you. As has been said it's an invitation not a summons! It's just a woman turning 50 who is asking her colleagues if she will come out for a meal with her to help her celebrate.

Maybe she has no other friends, maybe her husband is one of those men that doesn't do much for big birthdays, and is nonchalant about it, maybe she has young adult children who don't give a shite and haven't even got her a card. I see loads of threads on here about shit like this.

Is she really such a monster to be asking people to come out for a meal with her to celebrate her birthday? In OH MY GOD - their own time?!😱

You can hardly go in bloody works time can you? You'll be working.

I'd go. I love a good celebration, and a meal out!

Oh my days there are some right miseries on here! Hmm

Wantedhert · Today 09:42

TeaIsLovely · Today 09:40

I like my colleagues and happily spend a weekend away with them on a team outing - but spending my Sat night at their b’day surrounded by their family? Nah thanks.

I don’t think there’s any suggestion it’s with her family as well. All the OP has said is it’s with her team. She’s likely doing a family thing another day.

RosaNovella · Today 09:48

PrettyLittleRose · Today 09:42

Good grief there are some right grumpy feckers on here. Confused And self indulgent to want to celebrate your birthday with colleagues...? WTF?

Don't go if you don't want to, no-one is forcing you. As has been said it's an invitation not a summons! It's just a woman turning 50 who is asking her colleagues if she will come out for a meal with her to help her celebrate.

Maybe she has no other friends, maybe her husband is one of those men that doesn't do much for big birthdays, and is nonchalant about it, maybe she has young adult children who don't give a shite and haven't even got her a card. I see loads of threads on here about shit like this.

Is she really such a monster to be asking people to come out for a meal with her to celebrate her birthday? In OH MY GOD - their own time?!😱

You can hardly go in bloody works time can you? You'll be working.

I'd go. I love a good celebration, and a meal out!

Oh my days there are some right miseries on here! Hmm

In 40 years EVERY type of celebration has been in work time

Birthday/ retirement/ wedding/ baby
A short lunch or afternoon tea buffet style gathering organised by others
Pressie/ card / send off
Bit of food, manager does a short speech and gives card/ gift then back to work
Ive been to many of these
Theres nothing grumpy about it at all, its very nice 😂

PollyBell · Today 09:51

moppety · Today 08:28

I find it very sad that people’s first thought on being invited to an evening out is that it’s self-indulgent on the part of the inviter. What an unpleasant perspective to have on life generally. If someone invites me to spend time with them, even if I don’t want to go, I feel nice that someone values my company and wants to see me. I can’t imagine being so offended almost by an invitation.

Yes the instant judgement of others because the original person has issues, so of course it it everyone else's fault

Jk987 · Today 09:56

Stop being offended by a nice gesture! I’d make the effort- you might actually enjoy it! 😮 I’m sure she’ll buy a few drinks, you’ll get to know your colleagues in a different setting. You can forget about home life and routine for a few hours.

WouldYouLikeAnyToast · Today 09:57

Makkka · Today 08:07

The thread is to see if I’m the exception to think it’s a bit odd. Nothing to do with superiority how bizarre.

Edited

Why is it odd? She'd like to go out with you all for a birthday meal. That's a nice thing, surely - not odd.
The only thing odd here is you making such a deal of it. Just say something like "sorry, I can't make it, I've got plans, hope you have a nice time/birthday though."
Nobody's forcing you to go.

KaleidoscopeSmile · Today 09:58

MyGallbladderIsAFucker · Today 05:17

Well that sounds awkward and horrible.
No.

This response is MN to a tee for me.

Some bizarre, bizarre people

PrettyLittleRose · Today 10:00

RosaNovella · Today 09:48

In 40 years EVERY type of celebration has been in work time

Birthday/ retirement/ wedding/ baby
A short lunch or afternoon tea buffet style gathering organised by others
Pressie/ card / send off
Bit of food, manager does a short speech and gives card/ gift then back to work
Ive been to many of these
Theres nothing grumpy about it at all, its very nice 😂

Well that is extremely unusual, for every celebration to be in works time, you must surely know that. Never happened in any job I have ever worked in, you are extremely fortunate.

I don't think people are miserable feckers for not wanting to go, as people are entitled to say no of course, it's the whole attitude (from the OP especially) that this woman is some kind of entitled monster for asking work colleagues to come out with her to celebrate her 50th birthday. IN THEIR OWN TIME! 😱

Never heard such ludicrousness. IME no-one has celebrations in works time, although clearly, it happens seeing as every single celebration in YOUR workplace is in works time! 🙄

KaleidoscopeSmile · Today 10:00

Crunchymum · Today 09:26

My initial thought is your work colleague is deranged! Who would expect / think that people they work with want to give up a precious weekend evening - and pay for the privilege?

Is the Saturday her actual birthday? If so then I would feel a bit sorry for the colleague. Does she have no friends or family to spend her birthday with? Is her relationship with her husband a happy one? I'd assume not if she'd prefer to spend her birthday with people she doesn't know very well. However none of this is your problem @Makkka (nor the problem of your colleagues) and Hell would freeze over before I would be guilted into giving up a Saturday night - or any night actually I am an introvert with limited time and money, when I socialise it has to be worth it for me

If her birthday isn't the day she is proposing dinner then I am back to thinking she is deranged!

This is a highly unpleasant post.

gardenflowergirl · Today 10:03

No, we did 50th birthday lunches on a working day at a venue near to work.

PrettyLittleRose · Today 10:03

I agree @KaleidoscopeSmile What a vile post from @Crunchymum suggesting the woman in question is deranged for having the TEMERITY to ask work colleagues out for a social get together for her 50th birthday.

Crunchymum · Today 10:03

KaleidoscopeSmile · Today 10:00

This is a highly unpleasant post.

The use of deranged?

I just said in another post I accept that was a very strong term. I apologise for causing offence by using it.

Cherrysoup · Today 10:03

comeoncolleen · Today 09:01

Just reply saying lovely idea but weekens are too busy so how about after work drinks.

Trouble is, they all appear to wfh, possibly not all geographically close, so travel might be involved.

I just tell colleagues I don’t socialise outside of work, I’d rather be at home and i don't care if I’m seen as antisocial, because I am. I think every situation is different, tho, as I’m still in touch with various colleagues from differing companies.

Crunchymum · Today 10:04

PrettyLittleRose · Today 10:03

I agree @KaleidoscopeSmile What a vile post from @Crunchymum suggesting the woman in question is deranged for having the TEMERITY to ask work colleagues out for a social get together for her 50th birthday.

Okay, fair enough - deranged is a strong word - I accept that!

But my point stands. Yes she can ask but she needs to understand that people will probably so no.

RosaNovella · Today 10:05

PrettyLittleRose · Today 10:00

Well that is extremely unusual, for every celebration to be in works time, you must surely know that. Never happened in any job I have ever worked in, you are extremely fortunate.

I don't think people are miserable feckers for not wanting to go, as people are entitled to say no of course, it's the whole attitude (from the OP especially) that this woman is some kind of entitled monster for asking work colleagues to come out with her to celebrate her 50th birthday. IN THEIR OWN TIME! 😱

Never heard such ludicrousness. IME no-one has celebrations in works time, although clearly, it happens seeing as every single celebration in YOUR workplace is in works time! 🙄

😆

PrettyLittleRose · Today 10:06

Crunchymum · Today 10:04

Okay, fair enough - deranged is a strong word - I accept that!

But my point stands. Yes she can ask but she needs to understand that people will probably so no.

Fair enough, thank you for acknowledging that. x

JHound · Today 10:08

If you aren’t friends I would say no.

StorageUnit · Today 10:13

Don't go out of guilt or something, OP. If you can’t or don’t want to, you don’t have to attend.

WFH opportunities at my work has made this kind social event extinct, only because people come in on their preferred days and outside of that seem busy. It was different when we were all in the office daily there was always cake or a tea on. Sometimes people would go to lunch together and Friday night was more a ‘go out for a drink’ night for those inclined to do that.

I can’t recall the last social event in my workplace. I remember though that weekend catch ups happened occasionally and I’d meet friends I’d made at work for dinner. That seems like an age ago!

UniquePinkSwan · Today 10:14

‘Weekends are precious’

YABU just for that

godmum56 · Today 10:16

I couldn't work out which way to vote but my response would be thank you for the suggestion (I don't call it an invitation if I am expected to pay) but no thank you.

PouringCream · Today 10:17

Crunchymum · Today 10:04

Okay, fair enough - deranged is a strong word - I accept that!

But my point stands. Yes she can ask but she needs to understand that people will probably so no.

But there's no reason whatsoever to think that people 'will probably say no'. Not everyone is the kind of Mner who thinks that weekends are Sacred 'Family Time', regards being asked to get off the sofa unless strictly necessary as an aggressive act, or thinks that colleagues, like neighbours, should be treated with distant courtesy because of Potential Drama.

They're just as likely to think 'Oh, might be nice, given that we've never had much chance to get to know one another since we WFH' or 'Well, I'm not doing anything else that night' or 'I've been thinking I need to make more effort to make friends', surely.

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