Rise of far right

[Sillyme1]

Any one else worried about the rise of the far right in Europe. Churchill once said ‘those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it’. Obviously social conditions are different from the 1930s, but there are similarities such as using immigrants as scapegoats (not Jews this time). Things can so easily escalate and I admit to being worried

The Jews were demonised then. Now it's muslims and immigrants.

Where in history is the precedent for converting a mostly homogeneous country into a globalised population in one generation?

Yes it's about segregation, not meeting their needs. It will be sold as meeting their needs. But it will be underfunded sen schools where children are babysat and left to draw and play.

If you are British and middle aged, your references for centrist political parties would not be, 'Reform'.

People, humans need to stop sleep walking into becoming merely data sets before it's too late and algorithms have completely eroded democracy. The erosion of democracy definitely equates to any definition of the extreme right!

Well we aren't going to learn from history eg. WW2. Sadly I have cocluded that humans are tribal territorial like animals and will defend themselves from "other." Unfortunately I don't think we are dedigned to live in harmony.
Our failure to learn from the past will be our demise and Darwinism in action. Gosh i'm cheerful aren't I?

I think ppl are wise to the evils of communism

Firstly, people need to stop describing people who have concerns about immigration as ‘far right’. They’re really not. Hitler was far right, so it’s silly to be shrieking ‘far right’ at everyone who has concerns. We don’t want, nor do we need, immigration of unskilled young single men, who are not going to fill NHS roles, or contribute anything to our society, other than creating problems with demand on our public services, to which most of them won’t be paying into. If the government listen to the masses on this subject, there would be no place for Reform. But Burnham is just dismissing concerns, as he has stated publicly that immigration is not a priority. Apparently his priorities are giving everyone free bus travel and saving us all £4 a month on our utility bills. He thinks the hundreds demonstrating this week is irrelevant - low numbers. But he doesn’t seem to realise that there are millions of us not demonstrating on the streets, who agree with the protestors sentiment on immigration, and who will be voting instead at the next GE for a Reform government. Thats the reality unless he starts doing something about it, and not taking us for fools by fiddling figures.

Do you honestly think that women in this country want to be raped?

Do you honestly think that as women, if we thought these men were there to protect us, we wouldn’t be cheering them on?

Why do you think so many women are against these men if they’re suggesting they’re protecting us?

We are women.
We have mothers, sisters, daughters, friends - all of whom are women/girls.
We want to protect ourselves and other women.
These men do not want to protect us.

And they are far right because that’s exactly what they call themselves.

Correction: Jews still are demonised.

Are you talking about the UK? It hasn't been homogeneous for ages.
Read some history: Normans. Huguenots, Irish, Afro-Caribbeans, Ugandan Asians.

Democracy also includes us being able to vote in our PM. Yet we’ve been lumbered with Burnham due to his lefty mates taking the opportunity to get someone in who would never have got in if it was down to the voting public.

I don't think they understand that immigration is cumulative and has a permanent effect on changing the population.

Treating a native population like this is inhumane.

Key Statistics on Foreign-Born Parents

• Mothers born abroad: In recent annual data releases by the Office for National Statistics (ONS), non-UK-born mothers accounted for roughly 33.9% to over 34% of all live births. 1, 2]
• At least one foreign-born parent: The proportion of newborns with either one or both parents born outside the UK reached a record high of 40.2%. 1]
• Top countries of origin: The most common countries of birth for non-UK-born mothers include India, Pakistan, Nigeria, and Romania. 1]
• Regional variation: Concentrations are highest in urban centers like London, where nearly two-thirds or more of births involve at least one foreign-born parent, compared to much lower rates in parts of Wales and Northern England.

This is interesting. I'd understood the opposite. For example, that Conservatives used to be fine with nationalised industries etc until Thatcher. And the typical Conservative MP seems to be far more right wing than 10/20 years ago. But perhaps in other ways things have swung in the other direction. Do you have any examples?

Jesus.
In the UK, the PM is not voted in.

The usual ridiculous answer.

These people call themselves far right…

They are by definition far right.

I am concerned about too much immigration, like every country should be - but I am a leftist.

There is a big difference between being concerned about immigration vs being far right.
These men are far right.

This is describing perfectly the mother of one of my son’s school mates. She works for a refugee charity and twists herself in knots trying to help and justify the undocumented men sat around our town. Meanwhile she seems to be able to ignore and neglect her own two teenage sons without a second thought, they’ve in trouble with the police, getting so drunk they need their stomach pumped, stealing vodka bottles etc from the supermarket, hanging out with older troublemakers. They were once lovely kids, academically bright although I’d suspect some ND. She’s just completely abandoned them to concentrate on the foreign men from the charity she works for… I can’t begin to understand her thinking.

Treating a native population like this is inhumane.

What is this native population of which you speak, @Lemonraider?
What is its composition?

YABU. The left has swung so far left that even if you haven’t moved position (from the right), then suddenly you’re ’far right’. Our position hasn’t altered over the last 5 years yet DH and I have been labelled racists and bigots by two ex-friends. All we want is documented immigrants who pay their way rather than undocumented people flooding our country. We will also never be bullied into believing that people can change sex.

The population has changed a lot over the last forty to fifty years. And many British people have immigrated. I personally know people living in the US, Australia, Thailand, Iceland and Germany. All British people. We are all much more mobile now.

echt · Today 10:37
Are you talking about the UK? It hasn't been homogeneous for ages.
Read some history: Normans. Huguenots, Irish, Afro-Caribbeans, Ugandan Asians.

@Lemonraider
The usual ridiculous answer.

Diddums.

They mean white. It's always about racism.
Like trump who wants anyone deported who is not white

It is a consequence of what has been happening in European countries, illegal migrants who despise western culture invited in and protected by "Governments" at the expense of citizens. Quite chilling but inevitable. Let the cards fall where they may, we are in for interesting times.

It’s the rise in blatant racism that I find very worrying and sinister.

I genuinely don’t see how people object to Equity, Diversity and Inclusiveness. A lot of time people object to a false understanding of what it is (giving unqualified people jobs based on an immutable trait) when in most places like my own company it’s essentially respecting all viewpoints and working to remove any barriers that maybe a barriers to any groups.