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OMG Miriam Margolyes Andi Peters

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Temptree · Yesterday 12:16

I've got an annual leave day today and am spending the morning shamelessly on the sofa watching daytime TV with cups of tea and biscuits after an exhausting school summer hols. Kids back at school today. I've given myself permission to vegetate till 3:15pm.
So here I am watching This Morning and have just spent 5 minutes with my jaw wide open and hand over my mouth at what Miriam Margolyes just said to Andi Peters.
Did anyone else see it??
I mean it takes a lot to shock me. I am not easily shocked.
And this woman is currently doing a sell out tour??
Whoah.

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zingally · Yesterday 12:52

She's got a swamp mouth, and isn't the least bit funny or entertaining.

SummerColdAgain · Yesterday 12:52

Caniweartheseones · Yesterday 12:50

I’m always surprised on mumsnet how little overt racism there is considering how anti- colour and immigration such a large section of Britain is. I like non- racism but I’m always waiting for the “other side’s” opinions to come out .

I increasingly see racism on here. But most people are ‘clever’ enough to do it covertly.

JudyTeeny · Yesterday 12:53

She's a horrible woman. Crude and vulgar. I don't care if she's a good actress, that doesn't excuse her foul mouth and inappropriate drivel.

UnpopularOpinionsIWouldUsuallyKeepToMyself · Yesterday 12:54

Aluna · Yesterday 12:30

At 85 it’s difficult to know if it’s a generation thing or whether she’s hit dementia.

Must have been bloody early on set then, because she's always been the same.

Purplebunnie · Yesterday 12:54

I bet she's not really coming to Eastbourne, it's an old joke about people coming here to die.

emuloc · Yesterday 12:55

SummerColdAgain · Yesterday 12:52

I increasingly see racism on here. But most people are ‘clever’ enough to do it covertly.

Some posters think that they are, but they always reveal, at some point how they really think.

Marellain · Yesterday 12:55

Bumcake · Yesterday 12:48

Why would you think that? An oddly precise guess.

I’d say it’s more likely from the 70’s.

Yella is a pronunciation of yellow that sounds fairly specific. I guess I said Tennessee because I’ve been listening to Dolly interviews! It could equally be Appalachian. Just interested!

YankSplaining · Yesterday 12:56

People in the US haven’t said “high yellow” for decades. I only know that the term exists from reading historical fiction – it seems to have originated in the antebellum period and been out of vogue by the mid-twentieth-century.

WhereTheFuckAreMyWingsRoy · Yesterday 12:56

She’s a hideous woman who follows trends and says whatever she thinks will keep her relevant.

No doubt her age and her status as crazy lady will keep her Teflon on this as well.

Gloriia · Yesterday 12:56

JudyTeeny · Yesterday 12:53

She's a horrible woman. Crude and vulgar. I don't care if she's a good actress, that doesn't excuse her foul mouth and inappropriate drivel.

Is she a good actress though, what has she been in except a bit part in Call the Midwife? I've only ever seen her 'aren't I naughty, listen to me fart' crap on chat shows. Didn't know she was a good actress tbh.

Marellain · Yesterday 12:57

YankSplaining · Yesterday 12:56

People in the US haven’t said “high yellow” for decades. I only know that the term exists from reading historical fiction – it seems to have originated in the antebellum period and been out of vogue by the mid-twentieth-century.

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Where does Yellow even enter into it?!

DramaAlpaca · Yesterday 12:57

Yikes. That woman has no filter.

UnpopularOpinionsIWouldUsuallyKeepToMyself · Yesterday 12:57

LimeShade · Yesterday 12:34

I’ve no idea why she said it. It was kind of out of nowhere. She then started going on about how she wanted to be inclusive and welcome everyone. As if, she was being benevolent to Andy/ Black People.

Yeah 'Benevolent Racism' is a thing. Hence, Jordan Peele's 'Get Out' line...
"I would have voted for Obama for a third term if I could."

Pearlstillsinging · Yesterday 12:58

Aluna · Yesterday 12:30

At 85 it’s difficult to know if it’s a generation thing or whether she’s hit dementia.

It's definitely not a generational thing, it's a MM thing. She is a crude attention seeker who thinks she's funny even when no one else does.

Sortingmyself · Yesterday 12:58

Temptree · Yesterday 12:37

Well, I mean, I think she was racist.
She said to Andi "I bet you've got a black father and a white mother haven't you".
No context.
None.
Andi wasn't talking about his heritage.
He said "Actually both my parents are black". She acted surprised and said "Oh you look like a high yella"
Andy looked like he hadn't heard of this description so she elaborated by saying "It's what American people call black people who are a lighter shade of black"
Andy said he didn't know you could get 'different shades' which was said with an understandable sarcastic tone in his voice and he looked shocked.
She went on to say "Well it doesn't matter, we welcome people, we'll be inclusive......"
WTF? We need to be inclusive? Andi was born here, in Chelsea.
OMG
So many assumptions made by her based on his race. And blurting them out on national TV!
Christine Lampard looked like she just didn't know what to say.
Then Miriam was saying she's got strong views about people coming in to the country but at that point they cut her off and wrapped up the interview.
Disclaimer - this is not exact quotes. I was so shocked I can't remember verbatim.

fucking hell! 😳

ThatCyanCat · Yesterday 12:58

She's an absolutely wonderful actress and really, really unbearable in all other contexts. I remember once when my kids were trying to get attention and be shocking by running around shouting, "Poo! Bum! Wee!" and I was actually reminded of her.

YankTank · Yesterday 12:59

Temptree · Yesterday 12:37

Well, I mean, I think she was racist.
She said to Andi "I bet you've got a black father and a white mother haven't you".
No context.
None.
Andi wasn't talking about his heritage.
He said "Actually both my parents are black". She acted surprised and said "Oh you look like a high yella"
Andy looked like he hadn't heard of this description so she elaborated by saying "It's what American people call black people who are a lighter shade of black"
Andy said he didn't know you could get 'different shades' which was said with an understandable sarcastic tone in his voice and he looked shocked.
She went on to say "Well it doesn't matter, we welcome people, we'll be inclusive......"
WTF? We need to be inclusive? Andi was born here, in Chelsea.
OMG
So many assumptions made by her based on his race. And blurting them out on national TV!
Christine Lampard looked like she just didn't know what to say.
Then Miriam was saying she's got strong views about people coming in to the country but at that point they cut her off and wrapped up the interview.
Disclaimer - this is not exact quotes. I was so shocked I can't remember verbatim.

I’m from the States and have never heard that term before.

Springtimeinsunshine · Yesterday 13:00

She's always been vile as a person and I've no idea why she's feted on shows or even introduced to the Queen (quite recently) where she told her she absolutely must look after our King Confused

I'm the same as pp, I turn over if I know she's on a programme.

UnpopularOpinionsIWouldUsuallyKeepToMyself · Yesterday 13:00

And whatever else she is, she isn't stupid, she knows exactly how offensive that particular outdated term would be and exactly what its etymology is.

nicepotoftea · Yesterday 13:00

How did this even come up in conversation?

Raspbellies · Yesterday 13:02

I'd put £100 on her trickling into early stage dementia, inappropriate-ness.

She used to be fairly switched on and funny.

Waitingfordoggo · Yesterday 13:02

God, how embarrassing, she’s such a twat. I wish people (like Norton) wouldn’t egg her on.

ElBandito · Yesterday 13:03

Cynically, I'd say it's like she has gone out of her way to research something shocking to say/ask that she can then claim she didn't know was problematic.