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OMG Miriam Margolyes Andi Peters

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Temptree · Yesterday 12:16

I've got an annual leave day today and am spending the morning shamelessly on the sofa watching daytime TV with cups of tea and biscuits after an exhausting school summer hols. Kids back at school today. I've given myself permission to vegetate till 3:15pm.
So here I am watching This Morning and have just spent 5 minutes with my jaw wide open and hand over my mouth at what Miriam Margolyes just said to Andi Peters.
Did anyone else see it??
I mean it takes a lot to shock me. I am not easily shocked.
And this woman is currently doing a sell out tour??
Whoah.

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KitchenBallet · Yesterday 13:17

She’s a horrible, racist, creepy, offensive woman. I know someone that knows her and she’s always been the same. Acting like she doesn’t realise seems to mean she gets away with it. I’ve never understood why.

Bigcat25 · Yesterday 13:17

Pearlstillsinging · Yesterday 12:58

It's definitely not a generational thing, it's a MM thing. She is a crude attention seeker who thinks she's funny even when no one else does.

Agree but apparently some people do feel she's very funny. It's very very old and basic. Just the same formula over and over.

SethAndReubenTooSendGaloshes · Yesterday 13:18

The term is overtly racist - it's a deep south term that originates from the period of slavery where black people were categorised by skin tone, where lightness was prized above darker tones. It's repulsive.

Marellain · Yesterday 13:18

EarthaKittsVoice · Yesterday 13:14

A 'high yella/yellow' person is NOT a mixed race person. Also you can use Google to see a photo of Andi Peters

Yes, I saw him on the thumbnail. I am not in a good position to be looking for photos right now, Thankyou though. It’s NOT mixed race? What is it then?

ExtraOnions · Yesterday 13:18

…we know they playbook.. they get pulled up … blame “woke” … and up on GB News campaigning for Free Speech (so they can say offensive things with no consequences)

EarthaKittsVoice · Yesterday 13:18

Marellain · Yesterday 12:45

What a weird term. Interesting though. Where does the yellow idea come from?

It refers to people of a very light skintone who are black, not mixed race, manily used in America

Aluna · Yesterday 13:18

ZorbaTheHoarder · Yesterday 13:10

Or just her personality, maybe?

Her personality is to be outrageous & inappropriate. That’s different from outright racism.

Everyone over the age of 70 has some degree of cerebral small vessel disease which causes some degree of cognitive impairment. Quite apart from incipient dementia.

So it’s difficult to know if she didn’t know any better or cognitive impairment is affecting her judgment.

She’s the age my mother started swearing at people.

ThreeTescoBags · Yesterday 13:18

Aluna · Yesterday 12:30

At 85 it’s difficult to know if it’s a generation thing or whether she’s hit dementia.

With her, it's a being a twat thing

KitchenBallet · Yesterday 13:19

Aluna · Yesterday 12:30

At 85 it’s difficult to know if it’s a generation thing or whether she’s hit dementia.

She’s been like it forever. It’s who she is. Nasty, creepy, racist piece of shit.

itsnotfairisit · Yesterday 13:20

Aluna · Yesterday 12:30

At 85 it’s difficult to know if it’s a generation thing or whether she’s hit dementia.

I think it’s just a MM thing. Awful woman

Lomonald · Yesterday 13:20

SkipTheRecap · Yesterday 13:12

If she's not acting, she's excruciating to watch - vulgar, hyper and now apparently racist too. I've never seen the appeal of her, although when she was on The Real Marigold Hotel she calmed down a lot and was much more "normal".

She did a series about Australia and New Zealand was considered and thoughtful and not 1 bit racist towards the indigenous people and was genuinely interested in the institutional racism and trauma they indured, she was maybe "managed" by the production team
. Let her out on her own and she is inappropriate and now racist!

KitchenBallet · Yesterday 13:22

Racist apologist are here I see. As ever.

CaptainMyCaptain · Yesterday 13:22

EarthaKittsVoice · Yesterday 13:18

It refers to people of a very light skintone who are black, not mixed race, manily used in America

It referred to lighter skin toned enslaved people. They would almost certainly have been mixed race but not consensually so.

EarthaKittsVoice · Yesterday 13:22

YankSplaining · Yesterday 12:56

People in the US haven’t said “high yellow” for decades. I only know that the term exists from reading historical fiction – it seems to have originated in the antebellum period and been out of vogue by the mid-twentieth-century.

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It's still used, especially in black communties in America.

BlusteryLake · Yesterday 13:22

She's an awful woman who thinks that being old and female gives her a pass to get away with being vulgar and rude

Bigcat25 · Yesterday 13:22

It's very disingenuous isn't it. Pretending it's a commonly used, non offensive term. She's the worst.

Aluna · Yesterday 13:22

ValerieLafayette · Yesterday 13:07

My ex would try and excuse his mother's racism, and general cuntishness, as a generational thing, conveniently ignoring that nobody else we knew who was of a similar age behaved that way.

They like to shock, they like your discomfort, they like to see you squirm and not know what to say. They think they've got one over on you. They do it to try and feed their inner emptiness.

They get worse as they get older because that emptiness grows.

It’s well known that people from older generations are racist in a way that would not be considered unacceptable now. In fact when I looked at care homes for my parents they mentioned it was mentioned that their carers were trained to understand this.

PatNoodle · Yesterday 13:23

I must admit it's refreshing to see so many people have the same opinion of her as I do! On social media I always see people saying how amazing and funny she is, and defending the shit she comes out with so I always assumed I must be missing something

Samysungy · Yesterday 13:23

Temptree · Yesterday 13:09

I just cannot believe she was racist to Andi.
On so many offensive levels.
He wasn't talking about his skin colour. Or his race. Or his parents. She literally just brought it up out of nowhere.
I cannot believe she made such ignorant assumptions about him and then used an offensive and outdated expression to describe how she views his skin colour. Why would she even comment on it???
She was meant to be talking about her book.
Also she kept on talking to Christine Lampard several times throughout the interview in an exaggerated northern Irish accent which I found offensive too. But Christine didn't seem to appear offended which I found surprising but maybe she's a consumate professional.
I really hope Ofcom receive complaints.

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Have you complained? I would've expected you to have said Ofcom will be receiving my complaint.

Surely you will be doing.

CaptainMyCaptain · Yesterday 13:24

Aluna · Yesterday 13:22

It’s well known that people from older generations are racist in a way that would not be considered unacceptable now. In fact when I looked at care homes for my parents they mentioned it was mentioned that their carers were trained to understand this.

No. Not all older people are racist. I know people in the 80s now who are not racist and my parents who would have been 100 last year weren't. It is not an excuse.

Marellain · Yesterday 13:25

EarthaKittsVoice · Yesterday 13:22

It's still used, especially in black communties in America.

That’s interesting. I wonder if AndI Peters knew that. I don’t know if it’s a known phrase in the UK… except it is now!

Washingforweeks · Yesterday 13:25

Temptree · Yesterday 12:37

Well, I mean, I think she was racist.
She said to Andi "I bet you've got a black father and a white mother haven't you".
No context.
None.
Andi wasn't talking about his heritage.
He said "Actually both my parents are black". She acted surprised and said "Oh you look like a high yella"
Andy looked like he hadn't heard of this description so she elaborated by saying "It's what American people call black people who are a lighter shade of black"
Andy said he didn't know you could get 'different shades' which was said with an understandable sarcastic tone in his voice and he looked shocked.
She went on to say "Well it doesn't matter, we welcome people, we'll be inclusive......"
WTF? We need to be inclusive? Andi was born here, in Chelsea.
OMG
So many assumptions made by her based on his race. And blurting them out on national TV!
Christine Lampard looked like she just didn't know what to say.
Then Miriam was saying she's got strong views about people coming in to the country but at that point they cut her off and wrapped up the interview.
Disclaimer - this is not exact quotes. I was so shocked I can't remember verbatim.

She’s an absolute dick

Aluna · Yesterday 13:26

CaptainMyCaptain · Yesterday 13:24

No. Not all older people are racist. I know people in the 80s now who are not racist and my parents who would have been 100 last year weren't. It is not an excuse.

Excuse me? Where did I say “all”?

WinterGold · Yesterday 13:26

Did she manage to get her offensive tramp story in too? Every time I’ve been unfortunate to see her interviewed, she’s managed to drop it in (never mind that it’s 11 am!)

CaptainMyCaptain · Yesterday 13:26

EarthaKittsVoice · Yesterday 13:22

It's still used, especially in black communties in America.

Even if it is surely that's like a black person using the n word. It doesn't make it OK for anyone else.