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AIBU to set firmer boundaries with an overly familiar neighbour?

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Mirandaforever · Today 13:29

Hi all,
I’m not too sure where to post this. I’m looking for some advice as to handle an issue with my neighbour.

For context, I’m 36, a single mother to two active boys, aged 10 and 13. We have very settled home life; I work 45 hours a week and our weekends are often filled with days out, activities and kickboxing. We’ve got a lovely, steady peaceful life that I’ve worked hard to create.

Personally, when my boys are with their dad and I have free time, I like to do things with friends, catch up at home and relax with a film, candles lit and a good book, a little trip out often alone, or off to my local yoga class. Life is full in a way I have created. I love my life and am grateful for it, as life with my ex was turbulent.

My issue has become a bit tricky to escape, and I’m losing ideas of how to back away politely. There’s a young couple who have moved in about 5 doors down from me, they live in the end house and so I have to pass their house to go out. The girl is 24 with a 3 year old and a 10 month old. The eldest is quite often in the garden until late at night, say 9:30-10pm, and I’ve heard them arguing frequently since they moved in about 5 months ago.

I’m always polite as I go by, sometimes I’m in the car and she’ll stand there waving with the toddler, other times I walk by and she comes out to speak. Other times I’ll use the bus into town and she’ll chat, all very polite. The issue is, there’s a cafe that I use in our village and the staff have been telling me how they’ve been encouraging her to make friends with me, as some of the people in our area can be a little rude and unfriendly. They’ve told her to give me a knock if she ever feels lonely, and to add me on social media. I only have instagram and wondered how she’d found me.

It’s to the point now, she has started stopping me whenever I go past, keeps me talking for ages no matter how politely I try to remove myself, she messages me every day on Instagram, and keeps hinting for my phone number. She stopped me a couple of days ago and was saying how she wanted a night out with her partner but had nobody to babysit the children, as her mum doesn’t live locally or really help out and her in-laws were on holiday. I said what a shame it was and hoped she found someone, luckily my eldest son had seen me and rang my mobile, saying he needed me to come home.

Over the weekends she messages me, often while I’m out with a friend, or if I’m out with my kids. I politely say I’m busy but she just keeps messaging. She messaged me yesterday saying how she will have to come around one night for a takeaway and a bottle of wine, I don’t actually drink much so I wouldn’t do that anyway. I also enjoy having my home to myself, my children and my few close friends.

As I said, I’ve worked hard to create this peace, have a busy life day-to-day, and don’t wish to invite random people into my home. It seems to me she thinks I must be a lonely woman, who has no friends or anything else to do with life. She doesn’t seem to get that actually, life is actually busy for us and quite full. The last couple of times I’ve spoken with her, she’s encouraged her toddler to call me ‘aunty’, and seems to just let him run off to the point I’ve grabbed him myself a couple of times.

Last weekend myself and my boys had been camping, she was messaging me so I apologised and said I was trying to keep my battery. On arriving home around 10pm the following night, she was messaging me within 7 minutes of getting home, to ask if we’d had fun. She must be watching to see when my lights come on. She sees me coming home from a 9 hour work day, and is then messaging me about her day, or what’s happening with her children, or when she’s had a row with her parents. I just feel so overwhelmed and trapped by it all.

I sat at home last night with my lights off and curtains closed tight, sleeping in my sons room at the back of my house, as I knew she’d be hinting to come around if she knew I was home alone. It sounds ridiculous but I have to see her everyday and don’t want to fall out, but also don’t want her to live in my pocket. I don’t respond straight away, always make it politely clear I’m out so don’t wish to be on my phone, or if I’m home I will politely message a little bit then say I’ve got something to do.

I do get she is obviously lonely, but it seems unfair that she has the expectation of me to be her soundboard everyday, or be inviting herself round to my home. Even in work, she’ll start messaging and I’ve told her repeatedly I can’t use my phone during working hours. It seems to be getting to the point I’m going to upset her and that’s the last thing I want to do, but she is not getting the polite message any other way. How else can I make it politely clear that I don’t wish to babysit, or have her in my home, as she is now hinting almost every other day.

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Wayk · Today 13:37

You need to politely need to put a stop to this.

Firstly tell the staff at the cafe you are far too busy to have any additional friends. Tell her exactly what you said here. You have a very full life, do not drink much and need time to yourself and need to carve out time for other close relationships.

thetinsoldier · Today 13:42

First off, I’d tell the cafe staff that they should never have given your social media details to anyone and not to tell any randoms that they can be your friend. What an odd thing to do.

Second, I think you’re going to have to be a bit firmer. Have you tried just not replying to her messages?

Or, when you go out, a quick hello and keep on walking, even if she comes out to see you, and even if you feel rude doing so. If you do this a few times it should give her the message.

Failing that, you might have to tell her that you have no room in your life for another friend and ask her to stop messaging you because you’re finding it overwhelming and upsetting.

i get this might seem really difficult and you don’t want to hurt her, but she’s not worrying about your feelings in all this, is she?

is there a village playgroup, mums and babies class or similar that you can recommend she goes to?

Good luck. It all sounds very tricky.

Mirandaforever · Today 13:50

Thank you for your responses. I’ve actually tried not replying, just liking her messages. She then messages me the next day saying the same thing or asking the same questions.

When I walk past her house, I’ve started saying I’m late for xyz, but she’s started saying oh god I wanted to speak to you quickly because she’s so tired, so stressed, so upset etc and I just feel really bad darting off.

It’s quite a bitchy area where I live, so I tend to keep a low profile as best I can. I can see why the cafe staff were trying to help however, it’s really made things tricky for me and my boys, as she’s even started coming out when my 10 year old is on his bike, asking if I’m home and busy.

She even asked if I was sleeping with someone from our street the other day, because she’d seen the neighbour next door but one cut my hedge. I’d looked after their cat while they went on holiday, so they said they’d cut my hedge when they got back. He’s actually married and has kids!

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MyOliveStork · Today 13:50

Unfortunately you need to be firm and stick to it. As above, just say hello and keep walking. Don’t reply to messages. Tell cafe staff not to give out your details to people. Eventually she will get the message. But under no circumstances get guilted into being more friendly than you are happy with.

ThirdStorm · Today 13:55

there’s a cafe that I use in our village and the staff have been telling me how they’ve been encouraging her to make friends with me

why are on earth would they think that’s ok?! You are going to have to be blunt with her otherwise it will keep happening and it’ll get worse, she’ll show up announced or ask to borrow things! Be less subtle as she’s obviously not getting it.

“I can’t stop”, “no thank you”, “I don’t want to babysit your children”, “can you leave me alone please” and block. Yes you’ll be the bad guy but either way she’ll think you are rude whatever you do.

I don’t know any of my neighbours and I like it that way. Can you tell?!

Francestein · Today 13:58

I have totally reframed this post…
Can you just send her a short message saying something along the lines of, “I am extremely busy with my life and I think you would have more in common with people your own age. Maybe you should try speaking to your health visitor about joining a mother & baby group. I’m going to be blunt and let you know that I am blocking you as I need to protect my peace.” and leave it at that. I think I would also speak to the four people you know in the street and let them know what position you’ve been put in my the cafe ladies.

Mirandaforever · Today 13:59

@ThirdStorm the street we live on is full of competitive women, if one paints the door, the other has their lawn relaid. If one has a conservatory, the other has an extension, that kind of thing.

I speak to maybe 4 people and that’s it. I really don’t have time to be babysitting a young woman and her children! I have 2 free weekends a month, I really don’t want to spend them babysitting kids of someone I don’t really know.

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ThirdStorm · Today 14:01

@Mirandaforever this sounds horrific. I’m so sorry! Can you move? I’m sort of not kidding.

ItsmeMargo · Today 14:02

First of all, I would be FURIOUS with the café staff!!! I would feel it necessary to say to them, are you aware she’s basically stalking me now?

Stop liking her messages. Don’t engage when she tries to corner you. If you’re going somewhere, continue to walk. Don’t stop. She’s looking for a local friend she can gossip with, unload on, and turn to for free childcare. Maybe point her in the direction of the café staff!

Mirandaforever · Today 14:02

@Francestein I’ve not been there for a couple of weeks since she’s ramped things up. I was actually really annoyed when they gave her my social media details. I don’t even have my full name, as I like to avoid work patients finding me. I’ve actually got a very serious and professional job, so really like to keep my home life balanced away from demanding people.

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Mirandaforever · Today 14:04

@ThirdStorm I was actually on Rightmove last night haha!

@ItsmeMargo She’s actually more like the group I try to avoid. People who need outside validation and unable to self regulate. She started slagging off the old man who lives across the road from us, he’s 81 and bothers nobody. He’s one of the few I speak to.

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Crucible · Today 14:06

Mirandaforever · Today 13:50

Thank you for your responses. I’ve actually tried not replying, just liking her messages. She then messages me the next day saying the same thing or asking the same questions.

When I walk past her house, I’ve started saying I’m late for xyz, but she’s started saying oh god I wanted to speak to you quickly because she’s so tired, so stressed, so upset etc and I just feel really bad darting off.

It’s quite a bitchy area where I live, so I tend to keep a low profile as best I can. I can see why the cafe staff were trying to help however, it’s really made things tricky for me and my boys, as she’s even started coming out when my 10 year old is on his bike, asking if I’m home and busy.

She even asked if I was sleeping with someone from our street the other day, because she’d seen the neighbour next door but one cut my hedge. I’d looked after their cat while they went on holiday, so they said they’d cut my hedge when they got back. He’s actually married and has kids!

At this point, being accused of sleeping with a married neighbour, I would stop all pretence at politeness and tell her to get lost and block her on everything.

Birch101 · Today 14:07

Could you direct her to the peanut app its for parents to meet each other

Also local childrens centre have groups and sometimes the staff have capacity to meet with parent one on one fist so they are not going in alone

She'll have her 1yr review coming up so hopefully they'll direct her to some free groups but there will also be social media e.g. fb groups that show whats going on in the local area

A gentle redirect

Francestein · Today 14:08

@Mirandaforever I changed my post and have decided a much more straightforward (harsher) response is necessary.

manysausages · Today 14:09

She sounds unpleasant.
Slagging your elderly neighbour off and perpetuating dangerous rumours - no thanks.
Stop responding. If she stops you in the street say, no sorry, don’t have the time and keep walking .

Itsasecretnow · Today 14:10

Honestly, I’d just not reply. Turn off ig notifications if you have to, or just block her from seeing your ig. You’ve been too polite and she hasn’t responded to that, nor the hints that you’re busy etc. I do think you’ve made a mistake in replying to her messages. You can either be blunt and tell her outright that you just don’t have the time or the energy or inclination for any friendship, or just block/ignore, because what you’re doing isn’t working.

When you see her on your way out, don’t just keep saying you’re busy or need to go, just say it once and then walk off. You can still be polite and say hello etc if you want to, you don’t need to be rude and ignore her if you see her but you do need to learn to be assertive.

Francestein · Today 14:10

@Birch101 It is not OP’s responsibility to organise play dates for this young woman. She’s glommed onto OP because she’s a healthcare worker and the ladies at the cafe have decided OP will help her out. She should speak to her health visitor for ideas like this.

mbosnz · Today 14:11

Well I'd be absolutely going ballistic at her speculating as to whether you're sleeping with someone for a start off, and when I go ballistic generally people aren't keen on coming back for a second helping, so maybe try something like that the next time she oversteps? That is so incredibly, rudely, intrusive.

And if the cafe staff want to be generous with social media details, they can do it with their own, not someone else they think may be a soft touch.

StressedOutPeanut · Today 14:13

I think i would send her a text "Hi Susan, I'll let you know when I'm free, please can you stop asking if I'm free every day. I'm very busy with job and the kids. Also why are you accusing me of sleeping with married men? I don't appreciate it."

Sess249 · Today 14:13

I think just speak to her. Something along the lines of
”neighbour I really like you and it’s so nice having a friendly face to wave at, but I think you are looking for me to become a close friend. I want to be clear that I don’t have the time and I value the peace of my quiet house when the kids aren’t here. I don’t want to be stopping to chat for 20m every time I go out and I don’t want to be your child’s aunt or babysit. I hope you understand.” Then just continue to be cheerful and friendly but not more than you currently are

also block her on social media and then just say you aren’t getting any of her messages, if she asks

Thehop · Today 14:14

"It's lively of you to offer but I actually prefer being on my own at home when I get chance so that I can relax, hope you have a lovely evening"

to the takeaway at your house

and a flat "no, sorry, I can't help" if she asks you to babysit.youre not being rude at all. She is!!

somanychristmaslights · Today 14:15

I think you’re just going to have to be firmer. “Sorry, no time to talk” and keep walking. Don’t reply to her messages frequently. Hopefully she’ll get the hint!

Itiswhysofew · Today 14:15

She’s actually more like the group I try to avoid. People who need outside validation and unable to self regulate. She started slagging off the old man who lives across the road from us, he’s 81 and bothers nobody. He’s one of the few I speak to.

I was wondering if that might be the case.
Keep cutting her short - I can't stop, don't answer her messages, don't look out for her children - that sort of thing. Make it difficult for her to engage with you.

She hasn't found the friend she wants in you and you don't owe her anything.

Phoenix1Arisen · Today 14:15

I'd be using the outrageous question about sleeping with the neighbour as my exit strategy.

If she asks why you've become cool towards her, that's your perfect reason and to be honest, I'm amazed you weren't livid about the question at the time she asked it.

Apart from the astounding nosiness and the assumption that both you and he are morally bankrupt, what the hell business is it of hers?

TFImBackIn · Today 14:19

It all boils down to her wanting you to look after her children, OP. She sees you having time to yourself and thinks you might as well be taking care of her kids.

I'm a real coward so I'd move house!