AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK?

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This is some dystopian lord of the flies hell. Those poor women. Burned on the boat. Wth. Poor man stabbed to death. Why are the people that did this then going to be roaming free in the UK? Why are they allowed to enter the UK in the first place? Why are gangs not being 'smashed'?

Why won't the government tell us the truth about their crime rates?

AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2243693/english-channel-small-boat-migrant-dies

Google and see what though? That they get a free car and a five bedroom house? This scenario only exists in the imagination of Gary from Wetherspoons which he is happy to plaster all over Facebook.
Even people in the UK can't use google to find accurate information.

What’s the solution ??

We live on a tiny Island, absolutely no one is saying we should freely take in billions of people, because our economy cannot sustain it.

We know that men are more likely to do these journeys because they’re too dangerous for women and children.

We know that their plan is to send money home, until they get secured and then have their families come and join them in a safe way.

We know that we cannot take them back to a country if we don’t know where they came from.

We know that Brexit caused increased immigration and decreased emigration so the numbers are being unbalanced.

We know that if they do come to this country, we are going to ensure they’re housed and fed because people who are homeless and starving are dangerous regardless of sex, age or nationality.
We’re also not inhumane.

So apart from shooting them dead before they get off the boat - what is the solution?

People don't realise that once you vote in a fascist it's too late - your country will be destroyed and led by the worst people imaginable. Imagine the town low life being in charge of your local council. That's how it will end up. Lowe and his outfit will lead this country into the gutter. They won't solve any problems either, once the immigrants are 'dealt with' they'll move on to the disabled, the LGBT community, children with SEN etc. It'll be an endless list of scapegoats and eventually you'll probably find yourself or someone you love and care for on it. The very wealthy will get richer and everyone else will suffer.

100% agree. Why can’t we have nuanced discussions, the issue is complex, it’s not racist to have concerns about immigration.

Its not just the latest batches though is it? Beginning with Windrush wave upon wave of large ethnic groups have been allowed into this country and given equal citizenship without any public consultation in the form of a referendum. I don't remember being asked if I wanted to vote for so called "multi ethnic society". I know what my vote would have been.

How do you know what the data is about crime rates when they won’t release it or am I missing something?

You’ll be getting called thick, uneducated and racist for this post.

A long-term solution is making the relevant laws and getting the knowledge out there that they cannot access benefits, state-provided housing and cannot bring family members .

Short-term they should absolutely not be able to wander freely when we do not know their background. That is madness and dereliction of duty to public safety.

Further any off-shore processing must be investigated. Falkland Islands maybe?

But mainly axe the incentives.

I assure you people from India and Carribean were also not asked if they wanted British people to colonise their country.

Probably should have a word with the dead, who declared all these people British subjects and gave them the right to citizenship. Britain is only the wealthy successful country it is now because of its Empire. Without the Empire, it would be a backwater country with very little wealth - it's not a country filled with resources. It's wealth was built through Empire.

Views like yours are dangerous. Why shouldn't people born here have equal rights just because they have more melanin than you? You aren't superior because you have white skin.

I am concerned for women and girls. I live in a tiny village of 700 people which will now have a 1500 asylum camp for single men in the middle of it. The village is isolated and you can't get to anywhere else from it. I have 4 daughters. My teenagers will probably have to stop biking, meeting their friends in the park and have the new found teenage independence taken away from them. I don't think it is racist to have concerns about the scale of this and how it will totally skew the demographic of a community. Women and girls will be outnumbered 6 to 1. Living rurally most of our hobbies involve walking the dog along the filed and lanes. But it is very isolated. I have seen the news and stats that asylum seekers from the countries that will be in this camp are over-represented in crime statistics, particularly sex crimes. I'm not without sympathy for the state of the countries these people are coming from like Yemen, Afghanistan etc. I think it must be truly awful there. But like someone above says two things can be true at the same time. Huge numbers of single men with nothing to do from very different cultures are not going to have no impact on the communities they are put in. The world is changing hugely and for all sorts of reasons more people are going to be coming. We need to really consider the implications of it

It also worries me that the only people who will talk about it are Reform. I think the reluctance of parties to talk about the issues will push people onto reform even if they don't agree with them, as they are the only party talking about it.

Talk about patronising!

The Guardian is also concerned with shoring up it's own version of power, through cultural capital and soft power. That those who are educated 'know best' and we should submit to their wisdom. The rest of us are uneducated oiks. Your post drips with this BTW

Why do you say Reform are the only ones talking about it? That isn't remotely true.
Reform loudly promise things that they can't deliver, but that doesn't mean they are the only ones talking about it.

Not forgetting the government issued a leaflet to these men saying it's not normal or acceptable to rape women...

Fortunately the days of the left shutting down any unease and concern about the huge numbers of people, particularly men, who have no desire to integrate and whose cultures are incompatible with Western values are over

It is indeed fortunate that those days are over, @LoveItaly, but a lot of people had a lot of fun telling anyone who raised these issues - no matter how rationally - how racist they were and you can't expect them to appreciate others waking up

And we can't "make" France do anything, @Parker231, though we could certainly stop paying them millions to take measures they've no intention of adopting.
As ever the French will prioritise what suits them - something we could perhaps learn from - but I'm not sure what's to stop us intercepting boats, towing them back to the French coast and leaving them there. I don't imagine they'd be pleased, but with enough effort the issue could well solve itself once it was absorbed that they're really not going to reach the UK like this

MNers will say "but we have domestic rapists too"

Don't they have a shortage of doctors, lawyers and engineers?

And they have promised to not house asylum seekers next door to schools and nurseries.. Therefore fully accepting and admitting there is a problem. Just like wot we voters say there is.

(Granted none of us (save 70 people near Manchester) actually voted for our current PM, as we weren't given the option of doing so)

@Catza I don't understand what you mean ?
The migrants have phones ,the internet and they have real human contacts and networks .

They don't need mumsent or anything like us to tell them what they can get here.

Which is housing, money ,food ,doctors a bus to the local town and somerimes games thrown in .

Or they just meet their contacts already here and dissapear into the black ecconomy.

Yes I'm waiting for someone to say that, of course we have male rapists in the UK but it not deemed normal or acceptable in modern society, we have enough of our own without importing any more..in some cultures women are just viewed as male property to be used and raped at their pleasure, marrying off females at 9 years old is seen as normal, we don't want those values in the UK..

And yet imagine if that was 1500 women and children instead!

😂😆 Aw you're so cute. Kindly 😆

Hate to update your antiquated the mirror is the left wing version of the daily mail crap, but wake up. It's embarrassing for you. Honestly. Things have changed A LOT since eg. the Hillsborough days. In those days for example, Labour really was the party of the working people.

Listen - I'm self confident enough to be able to post an article by the mail, the express, the sun, the times, the guardian, al jazeera, sky news, the spectator and many more. You see I don't just judge an article by the organisation which presented it. Unlike you, check yourself and your questionable assumptions. It'll benefit you. And others.

It was overruled by legislation.

Yanbu op I don’t think many will be ok with this.