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AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK?

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CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 09:40

This is some dystopian lord of the flies hell. Those poor women. Burned on the boat. Wth. Poor man stabbed to death. Why are the people that did this then going to be roaming free in the UK? Why are they allowed to enter the UK in the first place? Why are gangs not being 'smashed'?

Why won't the government tell us the truth about their crime rates?

AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2243693/english-channel-small-boat-migrant-dies

Channel chaos as migrant dies, two women burned and one stabbed on same boat

Forty-five of those on board continued towards the UK and were picked up by a British rescue vessel.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2243693/english-channel-small-boat-migrant-dies

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EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 21:30

cardibach · 30/08/2026 21:28

Fewer people are coming not just fewer boats, so fewer people are in danger. If the same number were coming from the same places you wouldn’t like that either.

It’s still more dangerous for the reasons said. Ik this thread isn’t liked by Labour supporters who prefer not to see anything, but it will get harder and more chaotic for the people on those boats.

cardibach · 30/08/2026 21:30

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 21:28

No she didn’t. Not more than the headline states.

Agreed. Both the post and the headline imply it. I wonder what the purpose of that was, in both cases?

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 21:31

cardibach · 30/08/2026 21:30

Agreed. Both the post and the headline imply it. I wonder what the purpose of that was, in both cases?

If that’s how you interpret it it’s your call. The op didn’t use the line you did.

cardibach · 30/08/2026 21:34

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 21:30

It’s still more dangerous for the reasons said. Ik this thread isn’t liked by Labour supporters who prefer not to see anything, but it will get harder and more chaotic for the people on those boats.

I’m glad you are showing concern for the poor people in the boats. It’s heartening. However, the crossings have to stop because, as you say, they are chaotic and dangerous for the vulnerable people on them. It’s unrealistic that they would stop overnight, so the first step is to reduce numbers and make it more difficult. It is regrettable that the criminals involved in trafficking are so careless of safety, but still - fewer people are at risk which surely you see as a good thing?

cardibach · 30/08/2026 21:35

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 21:31

If that’s how you interpret it it’s your call. The op didn’t use the line you did.

Yes she did. With slightly different punctuation because I didn’t remember it quite as accurately as this C&P ”Those poor women. Burned on the boat.”

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 21:35

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 21:31

If that’s how you interpret it it’s your call. The op didn’t use the line you did.

Why would OP start a thread about poor women getting sunburnt - people get sunburnt all of the time, it’s not enough to start a thread over it.

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 21:36

cardibach · 30/08/2026 21:34

I’m glad you are showing concern for the poor people in the boats. It’s heartening. However, the crossings have to stop because, as you say, they are chaotic and dangerous for the vulnerable people on them. It’s unrealistic that they would stop overnight, so the first step is to reduce numbers and make it more difficult. It is regrettable that the criminals involved in trafficking are so careless of safety, but still - fewer people are at risk which surely you see as a good thing?

Nope it’s madness watching Labour do it this way. Of course the whole system is bad, as said. I haven’t changed on that.

cardibach · 30/08/2026 21:39

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 21:36

Nope it’s madness watching Labour do it this way. Of course the whole system is bad, as said. I haven’t changed on that.

I’ve said what I think we need. And I think Labour should start talks on it now woth other countries, but even if they did there would be asignificant lag. People would still come. So do you want more people in more boats or fewer people in fewer boats in the meantime? Or is it that you couldn’t possibly see anything positive in anything done by a Labour government?

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 21:40

'French detectives meanwhile confirmed that at least one of those involved in the boat incident had stab wounds, while two women were burned.'

Linked in the op.

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cardibach · 30/08/2026 21:41

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 21:40

'French detectives meanwhile confirmed that at least one of those involved in the boat incident had stab wounds, while two women were burned.'

Linked in the op.

Is that confirmed anywhere else? The stab wounds?
The burns are sunburn - so why didn’t the headline say ‘two women badly sunburned’? And why did you repeat the phrasing Those poor women. Burned on the boat.?

Edit: apologies for so many edits - my iPad has decided to pick its own adventure

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 21:44

Since my op is getting lots of attention..

AIBU to be deeply concerned about the sheer number of unchecked undocumented unknown men coming into the UK?

Why won't the government tell us the truth about their crime rates?

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ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 21:45

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 21:40

'French detectives meanwhile confirmed that at least one of those involved in the boat incident had stab wounds, while two women were burned.'

Linked in the op.

No where in the link in your OP does it say this.

Even if it did (which it doesn’t!) it would be a lie because the French report on it (that this article has used) does not say anything about a stabbing!!

You know the daily express/mail lie so why are you so hellbent on believing that over the actual people who were there and reported it.

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 21:49

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 21:40

'French detectives meanwhile confirmed that at least one of those involved in the boat incident had stab wounds, while two women were burned.'

Linked in the op.

'A criminal investigation has been launched, and those injured on the vessel will be taken into custody after medical treatment.'

Also linked in the op

'A spokesman for France's Maritime Prefecture said on Saturday: 'Early on the morning of August 28, the Ridens [rescue vessel] picked up 72 migrants requesting assistance.'

'During the rescue, the vessel discovered one person in the boat suffering from cardiac arrest and three others who were wounded.'

A helicopter was used to transport the injured back to France but a doctor 'pronounced the individual dead upon arrival', said the spokesman.

He added: 'The boat continued its journey towards the United Kingdom, and its remaining 45 occupants were eventually picked up by a British rescue boat.'

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Firstbornunicorn · 30/08/2026 21:51

Tiredtaxpayer · 30/08/2026 15:35

I'm just saying what the situation was in Liverpool.
I knew a retired chap who had a big hotel and he used to host Irish Wedding Receptions. He quickly learned that the best way to manage it all was to keep the Priest there as long as possible and keep plying the Father with (Irish) whisky and ham rolls.
As soon as the Priest left, the fights started.
(He also learned to take a big deposit against breakages.)
The Irish have always been big drinkers. Have you never been to Irish Day at Cheltenham? They bring the Guinness in tankers.

Yes, I’m sure EVERY Irish wedding ended in fights and there’s no hint of hibernophobia in your post AT ALL. You seem to have been very willing to believe this retired chap without questioning whether his own prejudices coloured his views.

cardibach · 30/08/2026 21:51

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 21:45

No where in the link in your OP does it say this.

Even if it did (which it doesn’t!) it would be a lie because the French report on it (that this article has used) does not say anything about a stabbing!!

You know the daily express/mail lie so why are you so hellbent on believing that over the actual people who were there and reported it.

I’ve just noticed that - it does mention stab wounds in the report but that bold section that @CoventryCity says is ‘linked in the OP’ isn’t in the report at all. Is this more careful wording? Implying it’s a quote (which I assumed, despite having read the linked article because I don’t have a photographic memory) but not actually saying it’s ’in the link’ so you can deny it’s a lie that you said it was in there?

cardibach · 30/08/2026 21:52

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 21:49

'A criminal investigation has been launched, and those injured on the vessel will be taken into custody after medical treatment.'

Also linked in the op

'A spokesman for France's Maritime Prefecture said on Saturday: 'Early on the morning of August 28, the Ridens [rescue vessel] picked up 72 migrants requesting assistance.'

'During the rescue, the vessel discovered one person in the boat suffering from cardiac arrest and three others who were wounded.'

A helicopter was used to transport the injured back to France but a doctor 'pronounced the individual dead upon arrival', said the spokesman.

He added: 'The boat continued its journey towards the United Kingdom, and its remaining 45 occupants were eventually picked up by a British rescue boat.'

So no confirmation of specifically stab wounds then?

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 21:52

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 21:49

'A criminal investigation has been launched, and those injured on the vessel will be taken into custody after medical treatment.'

Also linked in the op

'A spokesman for France's Maritime Prefecture said on Saturday: 'Early on the morning of August 28, the Ridens [rescue vessel] picked up 72 migrants requesting assistance.'

'During the rescue, the vessel discovered one person in the boat suffering from cardiac arrest and three others who were wounded.'

A helicopter was used to transport the injured back to France but a doctor 'pronounced the individual dead upon arrival', said the spokesman.

He added: 'The boat continued its journey towards the United Kingdom, and its remaining 45 occupants were eventually picked up by a British rescue boat.'

So where is the stabbing part?

One person died from a heart attack that has been confirmed but the French authorities have no said anything about a stabbing.

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 21:53

I love being this popular. It doesn't often happen in Coventry you see. Thanks guys, cardi, breezy and co.

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CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 21:55

cardibach · 30/08/2026 21:52

So no confirmation of specifically stab wounds then?

Well you can ignore the cops. You do you babe 'French detectives meanwhile confirmed that at least one of those involved in the boat incident had stab wounds, while two women were burned.'

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ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 21:55

cardibach · 30/08/2026 21:51

I’ve just noticed that - it does mention stab wounds in the report but that bold section that @CoventryCity says is ‘linked in the OP’ isn’t in the report at all. Is this more careful wording? Implying it’s a quote (which I assumed, despite having read the linked article because I don’t have a photographic memory) but not actually saying it’s ’in the link’ so you can deny it’s a lie that you said it was in there?

Yes it says the daily mail reports there are stab wounds - the daily mail apparently got it from the French report but the French report doesn’t mention stabbings (so they lied).

But OP said it was confirmed by the French authorities and hadn’t linked where they’ve said this (and it doesn’t say it in the OP link either).

cardibach · 30/08/2026 21:56

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 21:53

I love being this popular. It doesn't often happen in Coventry you see. Thanks guys, cardi, breezy and co.

People pointing out your inaccuracies and deliberate twisting of facts doesn’t mean you are popular. And this post confirms you know you’ve written stuff that is misleading, or you would be proving otherwise. Honest.y, I’d really prefer not to have to spend my Sunday evening pointing out misinformation, but we are where we are.

Sav34 · 30/08/2026 21:56

cardibach · 30/08/2026 21:10

No it wouldn’t. We agreed to take the same number back. It was only in the hundreds.

The planned mechanism was that for every few hundred individuals the UK sent down to Central Africa, the UK would accept a tiny, single-digit number of highly vulnerable refugees (such as those requiring complex medical care that Rwanda's healthcare system could not provide) back to the UK.

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 21:57

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 21:53

I love being this popular. It doesn't often happen in Coventry you see. Thanks guys, cardi, breezy and co.

It’s a shame because underneath all of the trolling, the rage baiters are just really lonely.
You see it all of the time.

You could reach out and make friends in the normal way.

cardibach · 30/08/2026 21:58

CoventryCity · 30/08/2026 21:55

Well you can ignore the cops. You do you babe 'French detectives meanwhile confirmed that at least one of those involved in the boat incident had stab wounds, while two women were burned.'

Where does it say this? It’s not in the report. Where are you reading it?

EasternStandard · 30/08/2026 21:58

ThatBreezyScroller · 30/08/2026 21:57

It’s a shame because underneath all of the trolling, the rage baiters are just really lonely.
You see it all of the time.

You could reach out and make friends in the normal way.

Why the personal attack?